brokers, riddle me this ?

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by dannythetrucker, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    There was a load posted earlier today, California to NY, the mileage figure on the posting was 2450.....

    It went straight across I80, no state highways involved, in fact using a state hwy would add to the trip...

    Google map miles 2840.

    2840.

    And the load had stops....

    Brokers, when you do this we counter by being high on our rates......

    And we won't "work" with you.

    When you adopt a mindset where you're thinking you're going to take advantage of someone, what happens is those who you're trying to take advantage of respond in kind...

    Like Rollin Coal has said many times....

    We are in charge, because we don't need your load.

    We take a "take it or leave it attitude".....

    Works both ways.

    Have a nice day.
     
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  3. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    look, I'm familiar with practical miles, yada, yada. But some of these, idk, air miles or flat made up. Like I said on member's edge they stick out like a sore thumb because they are in parentheses. I've even seen some where I believe they intentionally mispell the name of one or other of the cities so that they can enter in their own mileage. I suspect the parenthesis indicate the broker entered the mileage rather than it being calculated point to point. on ITS it's a little different, you can see PCMiler and ProM miles at the right.

    I agree with trees, when I know before I even call that a broker is intentionally trying to deceive me my price goes up and I am very suspicious of all details concerning the shipment. If a broker has a load posted correctly with relevent info and sounds as if they actually work directly with the shipper when I call, they are much more likely to get a competitive rate from me.

    That's why I say these brokers who play games, are they fooling anyone ? are they looking for a sucker ? And if they find one, what kind of service is that person really capable of providing ? I think they are fooling themselves, but apparently they were able to fool the shipper into entrusting them with the load to begin with so maybe I'm wrong.
     
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  4. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I have had this conversation with a couple of our "favorite" brokers on TTR. Both came up with the same lame excuse.

    "we do that so that our competitors can't figure out who our shippers / receivers are and under bid us."

    At least it was an answer I can half believe. They went on to explain if they advertise the actual towns, the lack of shippers in that community would be a dead give away and others would underbid them.


    uh, sure. You get the service you pay for.
     
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  5. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    lol, that's borderline genius really. They are only doing it for us so someone else doesn't come in and cut the rate ! I love it.

    I'll put that in my book of bad advice right next to "turn your odometer back 50 miles on every load so you make more per mile"
     
  6. dirthaller

    dirthaller Road Train Member

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    TQL, UTI, Etc. are on my "DO NOT CALL" list. I pray I will never be hungry enough to take them off!!
     
  7. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I always call them first ! give them a high offer and then move on to people I really want to work with. It's rare but they do have the occasional good paying load, worth a few phone calls. I sure don't want to wait til I'm out of options and call them, that's playing into their hand !
     
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  8. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    LOL!! I like to call them and give them my "pitch"....

    "Hi, I'm trees, I'm calling about the load you have posted, I'll do it for a million dollars, let me know if that works for you...."

    lol....
     
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    Oh man a million bucks, now that is funny stuff right there, I got to try that one sometime soon.
     
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    15 over Light Load Member

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    I agree, I still call TQL sometimes if nothing else but for amusement. I have gotten a couple good rates from them. Only because they were desperate and I think they had no choice. I hit them for a 8 dollar a mile load about a year ago. The only reason they accepted it was I had the only step deck with ramps close to the state dock's on Friday afternoon, and the load had to be out of the state docks by 3:00 PM or it was going to cost them to some major storage fee's if it sat there over the weekend. That is about the only real good load I have ever had from those clowns. the rest of the time you have to argue to get anything over 2 bucks a mile out of them.
     
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    ISXunlike Bobtail Member

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    I had an experience with TQL, called on a load I wanted, it was gone, they wanted me to take a different load I didn't want so I threw out a rate so high I thought they'd never take it, then they did. Shoot! I had no idea they were that desperate for drywall in Sidney, MT.
     
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