Bypass Filtration

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Kansas, May 3, 2011.

  1. paul 1052

    paul 1052 Heavy Load Member

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    I've had an OPS since 10/'09 went 160K miles with good samples on Rotella syn but due to fast idling oil consumption in Canada winters made me change to dinosaur oil til it warmed up but my #s were still really good.

    The new OPS units are 6 inches or less in diameter and easily fit on a frame rail, they have also gone to spin on filters. Mine was about $630 with 2 filters and 2 sample kits shipped and I paid Cat $300 to put it on b/c I was still under warranty for an inframe...didn't want any possible issues, if I bought one for another truck id install it myself.

    Pretty clean and fast filter change.
     
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  3. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    Looks like im on the right track. Talked to Pitts Power this morning and asked about the spinnerII. Sounds like its the way to go. Wasnt real excited about having a 3ft tube hanging off the back of my sleeper. Isnt room enough back there with the muffler, apu condenser and all the other crap anyways lol.

    How often are you guys having to clean your spinner2? Every oil change or what?
     
  4. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    Dang, thats an incredible amount of miles.
     
  5. Cowpie1

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    I have been using the FS2500 for a few years now. I consistently run my FS filters 25,000+ miles before changing them. Oil samples still look as good as changing at the 10,000 miles FS recommends. Soot consistently at .1 to .2 ppm. Longest I took my FS filters was just under 30,000 miles and then started to notice an up tick in soot levels. Since then, I just change them at 25,000 miles, give or take. No need buying and replacing filters any more than I have to.

    Remember, that FS wants to sell filters. Put your unit on and gradually increase the change interval on the filters and sample to see how far you can take the filters before changing. The canister will get hot if the oil is flowing thru and usually the filter is doing just fine cleaning up. Only if it gets plugged will cleaning be affected.
     
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    TOSKABG and FIB Thank this.
  6. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Well, to be totaly honest, you actually have changed your oil more than a couple of times in 525,000 miles. When you figure the amount of oil you drain and replace with each GCF filter change, you are changing out the same amount as a complete oil change in 3-4 GFC filter changes. True, that is a less amount than actually doing oil changes, but that is why you can go so long and still retain TBN and keep viscosity in grade. The only difference is that you are not actually pulling the drain plug on the engine pan, but you are still changing out a considerable amount of oil with each GCF filter change. That amount of oil replacement also keeps the wear metal numbers dilluted down and not show considerable rise over time as it does with the smaller units. Not quite the same idea that GFC puts in its advertising. When you replace the almost 3 gallons of oil with a GCF filter change, that can really skew the wear metal rate numbers over time that actually accumulate in the oil. Doesn't mean the GFC isn't doing its job, just that when you look at the big picture, it is not quite the greatest thing since sliced bread that they like to claim. When you actually look at all the variables, the GCF is really no better or worse than most of the other major bypass filtration systems on the market.

    What would really impress me, is someone who uses a smaller bypass like FS2500, Amsoil bypass, OPS, etc that only needs a quart or two of makeup oil with each filter change, actually get the oil change intervals you have.
     
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  7. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Not degrading the GFC, it is a good filter. Just putting a little perspective into the mix because GCF won't say these things in the advertising.
     
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  8. Thanks Cowpie! I'm not trying to bash any of the other modes out there, this one just seemed to make the most sense for me. And, as you and others have stated, any system is better than none at all.
     
  9. Krooser

    Krooser Road Train Member

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    I have a bypass filter waiting to be installed (FS 2500)... but I've been waiting for about 5 years!

    Guess I better get busy...
     
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  10. lostNfound

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    With manufacturers pushing service intervals further out (Detroit Diesel is up to 50,000 miles as I posted in another thread) I would be interested to see the results of bypass filters, spinners et al on these new engines.
     
  11. gonzo01

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    I just (week ago) installed a spinner II 960 on my C-15 ACERT equipted '07 T2000.
    Easy and straight forward intall. Wish I had opted for the 996 as it built for rough service. Bought mine from PPI. Used Rotella 6 and it is still clean looking after 4k+ miles. There are several out 1/2 ORB taps on the ls of engine. Drain is into oil pan at drain plug. I replaced drain plug with #16 ORB to #14 to #14 hose to 1/2 (#8) drain at spinner. I wanted a large resivor type hose for drainage to oil pan. Used #6 air fittings.
     
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