Cabover More Dangerous??

Hey Kittyfoot don't tell me "NO" when you have no idea what you are talking about! I drove a cabover and when you needed to get to the motor you pulled the pins and popped that cab forward! Are you seriously going to tell me that I did not do this? Are you saying I was dreaming every time I drove this truck? Get of your high horse and stop insulting people's intelligence! Haven't you gotten banned for this once already!

 

I beg your pardon kind sir, but I've driven every make of North American COE there is and worked on most of them. I simply corrected your obvious "error" in phraseology (eg: Flipped the Cab... or "Popped" the cab) with the presumption that you really knew better. Does such a minuscule thing insult you somehow? Really?

As for my "banning", I'm well aware that I have no "friends" here. But fortunately that matters not atall. So, if you wish, ban away. I'll live quite well without y'all thanks. Threats don't work on someone who just doesn't care. Sorry 'bout that.

 

i have worked on pretty much most types of coe dating ba ci to approx 1975 models---soory but i cant remember any being held in by pins--my memory might be going--but iirc all were basically the same --held in by ahook on each side--at the the rear--and the hook was generally released by pull cables on the sides--when down it had pressure holding the hooks into the mount

 

We have an old JB Hunt cabover in our fleet. Drove it a few miles. Was the oddest feeling. I have driven an asian cabover, didn't care for that one much because my big feet would hit the brake and throttle at the same time. We did have a cab fall foward and hit the ground. I don't think it was assembled right at the factory, raised the cab and it kept going. Had to get a new windshield for it. It only happened three years ago.

 

I know it's been awhile ago, but back in the late 70's and late 80's i drove some coe Int. and 362 Pete's and we had to pump up the cab and "flip it" forward to get at the engine. It had one hook on each side to lock and unlock the cab. Never heard of what ever pins breaking and the cab " flipping forward or over " must be a newbreader thing. If the latches are unhooked before driving, a driver should see that doing a pre trip, that seems like a nobrainer to me

 

It aint as bad as most make it out to be. I prefer a truck that drives and rides like a truck...not a cadillac. You can't stand up in those long n low petes with the 38" sleeper either....but you can put your legs down. I just can't stand all the newer fleet trucks spec'd with nothing in them and cut back so far you can't even use all the ranges on a 10spd. Not to mention all the plastic rattle-trap interiors on the newer freightliners. It seems they built them alot better before the FLD series was replaced by the century's and columbias. And i noticed....according to the VIN plate...it was made in North Carolina. Not Mexico

 

International use to have the COE with the two levers, that had to be over-centered, that is early sixties, And if memory serves me they did have pins. The newer Freightliner cab overs, had hydraulically activated pins securing the rear latches.
I have had COE when jacking them up break the pin, of the frame, and come down, I know of people that got killed from a cab coming down. The old ones did not have the valve that stops them if they came down to fast.
I had a cab fall over when jacking it up, broke a window and scared everyone.
I worked at a dealership and did a lot of insurance inspection work never saw one that flipped over in an accident.

 

That's possible, I've had no experience with the Argosy, but I've heard of some wierd "shortcuts" in their limited build. Fliner sure lost a bunch of $$$ on that idea.

BTW, is that pin you had break the pivot for the hydraulic ram or the front hinge for the cab? Just curious.

 

That was one of the things that led to me to hating Freightliner. Back when the Argosy was introduced, they spent tons of PAC $$$ supporting legislation that would legalize 57 foot trailers nationwide.
They claimed they would be safe and manuverable with the turning characteristics of the Argosy.
I thought that was greedy and selfish to attempt to manipulate the law in order to boost sales of their crappy truck.

 

It was an international and it broke the bolt off the frame, the cab crashed down and the handles flipped around and nailed my hand. I was not a happy camper.
Freightliner sold a lot of the COEs in our area.