California Level 1 & ELD Coversation

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Scooter Jones, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Really, ELD is new, and if you are using what you have used, it isn't comparable except most of the slack from AOBRD is removed from ELD.

    5MPH is tough to do, but I saw a guy doing it in Chicago on the Eisenhower on ramp from the westbound Kennedy.

    The new spec box is harder to drive, but some still will try. My friend trying to use One Twenty F ELD claimed that put him on the driveline almost immediately, his company got a 30 day reprieve to find something that works. I wouldn't have believed the Chicago thing except I was following him thinking it was a backup, but cars kept passing him on the right, so when I got an opening, I looked.
     
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  3. Studebaker Hawk

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    I started a thread about the problems our company has had with JJ Keller Mobile. We had to dump them (180 trucks) and switch to EROAD.
    The enforcement people are never going to be able to figure out over 200 different systems on 2 platforms iOS and Android.
    As for malfunctioning systems, the law says you can only use paper for 8 days, many of these ELD systems have never worked. AOBRD's are completely different(People net, omnitracs etc) That is why they are still operational.
     
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  4. Dieselboss

    Dieselboss Technology Contributor

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    This paragraph got me curious and I'm a data-person. So I ran the numbers based on your scenario and it would look like this if you used Omnitracs as the guinea pig:

    Your setup:
    Garmin Dezl 570 plus ELD
    Hardware cost: $515
    Monthly cost: $0
    Total annual cost year 1: $515
    If you truly replaced every quarter: $2060 for first year
    If only replaced once per year after that: $515 per year
    If never replaced at all: $0 per year after year 1

    Omnitracs XRS (AOBRD/ELD using your Android device)

    Hardware cost: Zero
    Monthly cost for Basic logs compliance, tracking, and cloud backup: $23
    Total annual cost year 1: $276
    Total annual cost year 2 onward: $276

    Omnitracs IVG (often still called a Qualcomm) – hard-wired 8” ruggedized tablet and ELD
    Hardware cost: $799
    Monthly cost for Basic logs compliance, IFTA miles per state, tracking, and cloud backup: $23
    Total annual cost year 1: $1075
    Total cost year 2 onward: $276


    Side note: the Garmin 465T came out in 2009

    I don't know what PeopleNet or Keller, etc cost. But it would be interesting if someone made a "correct" chart of all of the options out there. Then let the users put like a 1-5 star Amazon style rating on whether the thing worked. Then a second 1-5 star on the customer service of it.
     
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  5. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    I'm using BigRoad Dashlink AOBRD. I give it a 5 star rating at this point.
     
  6. not4hire

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    Bigly safety improvement... yuuuge!
     
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  7. Antinomian

    Antinomian Road Train Member

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    I really think there are people at the DOT who have this fantasy that soon all ELD's will just transmit data to the weigh station as you pass by and you will be instantly cited for any infractions; and that no practical considerations are allowed to penetrate this happy vision.
     
  8. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    I instaled mine early in November. I bought a new MAC tablet at the same time to replace my old Samsung unit. Not one glitch. The company trucks waited till December 18thand are having nothing but problems still.

    Hum??? Same units and same program? I'm thinking some of the problems are the frame of mind?

    I don't like elogs!!! Mostly for the added expense the government forces, but I will do what I've done my whole life and adapt and overcome.

    @stayinback shoot me a pm and I'll help getting you hooked up.
     
  9. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

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    That is actually something that's being worked on.

    Level 8 proposed.

    http://www.washto.org/pdf/fall2015/Level8Inspections.pdf

    Level 8 approved.

    CVSA Adds New Level VIII Electronic Inspection to North American Standard Inspection Program - CVSA - Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    I could SWEAR I had it when I was still OTR...but I guess not. I'd been local for 3 years by then. Guess I was remembering the laptop running the DeLorme Street Atlas with the USB GPS antenna. Come to think of it, I did have the laptop in that day cab company ride...and even in my Mack. Time gets away from me, I guess. Still got a good 8 years or so out of it.
     
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  11. Dieselboss

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    That is still a REALLY long time for a GPS. I have always maintained that if you could smash RM's "off interstate" truck routing recipe data and "smash it" into Garmin's hardware, then you would have the undisputed king of trucking GPS.
     
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