FYI if you want to look up the actual OOS statutes, you can check any trucking company's inspection records at quicktransportsolutions.com where they're listed by state.
Calling All Hot Shots
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by SMBdriver, Sep 6, 2011.
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I wouldn't bother with them but if somebody was a member they could see if they were getting what they were paying for .
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They can ask for whatever they want. Motel receipts ARE NOT a requirement!
I took ohio through the opuc hearing/trial about this, cause they put me OOS
for that. I won in the end and NO you don't have to have a lawyer. The main thing is to
tell them nothing except what is required and if your paperwork is in order you really don't have to speak to them. Another fact is they target a hotshot caus they think they don't have to do amy rela work like getting under vehicle. That is wrong also a level one is a level one no matter they type of vehicle, I proved this to ohio too. The reaso these agencies get away with this is cause 99.9% of these drivers want ask for a trial and have no balls when it comes to the police. If all these drivers would go to court they would start to leave you alone. I have won two tickets in va. and the OOS in ohio without a lawyer. I am presntly fighting a ticket in In. , The prosecuter filed it would be cheaper if I would pay for the state so I replied then she should pay it. I wasn't.
Protest, complain and show up is the only way to win! OR just take the screwing they are trying to give you. Whatever you do don't trust no lawyer I have sat and watched one driver be found guilty of the same violation I won five minutes later cause he trusted the lawyer to represent him, while he was on road. -
It's fine to say motel receipts aren't a requirement, but since I don't sleep in my truck (I charge enough to stay in motels as I'm too old and too much of a girl to be sleeping in the back of my truck) when they ask me I just pony them up.
You may well be right, but like I said before, that's not a hill I want to die on.
Around here they target hotshots because there are so many running illegal. I never have trouble with the inspections because all of my stuff is set up legally, but the folks I know around here who don't go by the book are the ones who have problems, and in my opinion, if you're outlaw hotshotting, you should get ticketed and put OOS when you get caught.
I put a big investment into doing this right and legally, and it chaps my backside to see outlaw outfits undercutting my rates, so when they do get caught I don't feel bad at all for them. I don't wish them ill, I just think they should play fair, and that means doing it legal.
Now, in other places (Mississippi) I have been pulled in for an inspection because the officer wanted an "easy" inspection for their quota. I know this because the officer said so straight up when she pulled me in on my way back from a truck only run. Didn't bother me, I got my sticker and the officer got her quota. -
Fair enough. But if they are outlaws there must be some lawful way to shut them down without trumping up BS off-duty "violations".
And if not being able to produce the motel receipt is the only OOS "violation" they can find, well... They must not be THAT outlaw. -
I actually went in the other day and checked the violations that one well known trucking company around here got last year. Now, granted, they run the trucking company legally but they also have illegal hot shots running for them. The violations I saw were mostly "no log book", "falsified log book", "10/15" and so on. I wouldn't call those trumped up bs violations. I run a log book and one of the big things the outlaw hotshots do is just run without one. So with no log book, and no documentation that they stopped for their 10, I'd expect them to get ticketed or put OOS.
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Falsified log book is much different then not being able to produce motel receipts.
If the driver isn't going off duty for 10 that is one thing. But that isn't what the discussion for the last couple of pages has been. The talk was drivers getting put OOS for NO MOTEL RECEIPT. --big difference.
Until someone can point to the regulation that says you need to produce motel receipts, those ARE trumped up BS violations.
I agree with you, if they are running outlaw... shut them down! But like I said... If they have to make up violations to shut them down, then they aren't outlaws. -
The point here is they are NOT ENTITLED to see any hotel/motel receipts and what I don't like is they target hotshot type trucks.
They can tell by the MC number if you are legal or not.
I have had as many as three level one's in a week and two in a day.
I never go through scales empty I consider it personal use. I also downrated my GVW on truck to 10,000 pounds and tell them real quick my truck isn't a CMV. The point here is until enough people try and put a stop to them bothering us they will continue. Let them do real work if they want to do level one's make them get under your rig I have before. I was in In. last july and I thought the other guy there was going to kiss that old woman at scales. I asked him why are you kissing her ##### they're putting you out of servicetheir not doing you no favors. I also told him how to correct his OSS and how to beat them in court they were really pissed at me. These carrier police think they can make the rules as they go thats all BS don't be fooled, YOU have rights they just want to put forth you don't. -
I'm not arguing with you guys who want to live and die on the fact that you feel DOT doesn't have the authority to ask for motel receipts.
I'm just telling you all straight up what I do and why it doesn't bother me to show them when they ask for them.
As to the question of whether or not they have that authority, maybe Dieselbear or some other DOT officer will see this thread and give us the straight answer because everyone on here seems to have an opinion, and they can't all be right.Scott101 Thanks this. -
Ok, since we don't know for sure, I started a thread to try to lure in some unsuspecting DOT officer to ask our questions to.
If one does take the bait, be NICE to them!!
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