So it's ok for cameras to be in commercial airplanes, taxis and buses that you may be a passenger in, because your safety is paramount ... but a camera in your truck, that's where you draw the line? Just trying to establish where the cut-off point is.
Cameras and E-logs and Automatics oh my!
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I don't think of cameras as being paramount to my safety, so the cutoff can be right where it's been for most of my life .. which I've obviously managed to live quite safely .. without cameras, lol. I also survived those seatbeltless rides in the back of pickup trucks to the ice cream place after little league baseball games, rode bicycles without helmets and drank water out of garden hoses. If we need a team of capitalists and government to make us feel safer, then we're doing something very wrong.
I'm just really glad this wasn't the mindset in the 1700's
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When one purchases an airline ticket or a ride on a bus or in a taxi all reasonable rights to privacy are given up as one is now in a public space where the courts have ruled citizens have no reasonable expectation of privacy. However, when one is required to live out of a truck and the truck is your domicile a reasonable right of privacy can be expected especially when the cameras never existed in the first place when one was hired.
The reasonable expectation of privacy is where the line is drawn (cut-off point) and once this is properly challenged in a court of law the monitoring of drivers for no apparent reason no matter what the guise is (especially if the driver has no accidents, incidents or safety record issues) it will go away much in the same fashion as the see-through monitors are now going away in the airports ... it's an invasion of privacy issue and has nothing to do with the guise of safety or as you assumed, "driving in traffic and texting, eating & drinking with 2 hands, fiddling with the GPS, throwing trash out the window" as such an assumption assumes automatically the driver is doing something wrong.mje and DocHoliday Thank this. -
I know and you also think 9/11 was an inside job
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If you feel the need to reach and stretch, join a gym.runningman0661, DocHoliday, snafu and 1 other person Thank this.
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Just think of it this way: With an in cab camera, that cb man with the pink panties on will finally get all the attention he has been craving for
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Cameras, E LOGS and Automatic transmission... hmm I would like to see someone do OS/OD with an Automatic tranny.. Sure don't need elogs most of the time can not drive but certain hours.. Depending on load.. and Cameras I usually have an escort front and rear if not 2 on the backside..
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Got ya now. True but you have to remember what's in the CDL books now days too and how times have changed. They tell you to pump your brakes now. Sorry coming down a grade I'm using steady pressure 3 pumps of the brakes and my compressor's going to be running...3 more I'm at 60lbs and 3 more and I'm sitting on the side of the road because my tractor protection valve popped. Sorry my truck don't build air fast enough for me to pump my brakes down a hill and I don't feel like having a brake fire. I still use the trolley bar to come down a hill on 281 just ahead of valentine works great if my trailer brakes weren't almost shot to begin with.mje Thanks this.
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All those farmers and constructions workers that went from manual transmissions to automatic equipment sure don't miss manuals...
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They many not miss manuals yet your still missing the point if auto's do take over someday way down the line after I'm dead gone and had my ashes dumped in a cat litter box you're going to have a problem seeing as how the FMCSA's gonna slap drivers with an auto only restriction on their CDL...oh well 2 years after that truck drivers won't be needed because computers will be driving trucks...it's on another thread.mje Thanks this.
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