Can you cheat an eLog?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Meltom, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. mustang970

    mustang970 Road Train Member

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    I myself don't see how road or traffic conditions play into not finding a place to park.
    I think that just becomes creative interpretation.
    I also think that most safety, and even a DOT cop or 2 might understand having to go a couple miles or minutes beyond the cutoff in extreme situation, but shouldn't be the norm.
    When there is liberty given, and then its abused, it is typically taken away.
    We now get they wonderful save all e-logs because we as a industry abused the paper logs to the point they are a joke.
    Now look, we have a thread wanting to cheat e-logs.
    Just remember kids, If you hit a school bus, how is your log book going to either help put you in jail, or keep you out?
     
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  3. U2Exit

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    I stand by my statement. Read your own BOLD words... nowhere does it say "adverse parking conditions".

    The rule is as it states... except for your little statement in parenthesis...

    example... Showing up at a truckstop at 3am with no parking is not unusual... with your 9 years of experiance that you are so quick to point out, it should be an expected condition.

    unexpected traffic condition would be an accident... but not just any accident... an accident that prevented you from parking in a reasonable manner under the rules. It means if you are presented with an accident and your 11 clock runs out, you proceed to the nearest available parking. Not an excuse to proceed to your "planned" parking location.
     
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  4. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    You just reiterated what I've been saying throughout this whole thread. No where did I say that I use this extension for more drive hours. :biggrin_25521:
     
  5. U2Exit

    U2Exit Road Train Member

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    No, you use it as an excuse for poor trip planning.
     
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  6. Roadmedic

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    If you are unable to complete the full 11 hours of driving because there are no truck stops in the area, so you feel you must go on.

    1. Why did you not stop earlier when there were stops available.


    In other words poor trip planning.
     
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  7. mustang970

    mustang970 Road Train Member

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    Wait for it, here it comes

    Adverse Parking Conditions, otherwise known as APC.

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  8. mustang970

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    I think at some point our fine feathered friends in the dispatch offices are going to have to rethink dispatch.
    E-logs are going to be a cause of what I like to think of as short stopping.
    If your under a dispatch, say for just simplified purposes.
    1100 miles, and your given 30 hours to complete this run.
    We all will shortly learn that with e-logs the days of 11 hours driving time is short lived. So we trip plan and learn we have to stop short of our 550 mile day, we stop at 500 miles to find safe parking, hence trip planning. Now we can't make the 2nd portion of our trip, so will need more time, due to short stopping and our trip planning.
    Yes I know we can drive faster or farther, but this is just a simplified example.
     
  9. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    Enough with the generalizations. If there is a stop sooner, I will stop. I rarely run a full 11 hour clock. But, if the load will be late when I stop, I continue. That is part of the exemption rule.
     
  10. Roadmedic

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    Only in your mind.
     
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  11. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    Whatever. It's not worth arguing over like a bunch of school girls. Run your logs like you run them and I'll run mine like I have been. Since I'm at Level 0 in log violations, I must have been doing something right for 9 years. :biggrin_25518:
     
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