Cannot comply with ELD mandate in New model Volvo trucks. Incorrect data port .. obd2 not round !!!

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  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    And this is why I keep harping on Mark. I really should bow out of this thread, but he's dug his feet in so deep, and is seen as an "expert" by other posters I just can't.

    I've been fixing computers from '97 to .11, when I started driving. In all that time I've never had a single company say their product will work with a 3rd party adapter except for 2 reasons.
    1. It's been "certified", usually including a mutli thousand dollar bribe to certify it.
    2. It's a standard, like USB. But even then most have the caveat of "Will only work with fully compliant devices" or something like that wording.
    The fact he refuses to see the difference in "Not guarantee" and "will not work" tells me he's in it for a reason. Since the only reason I've seen is to try and sell RM's products... Well, I'm sure you can see my I keep calling him a salesman.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    So this post is worthless also?
    Rand McNally ELD 50 questions
     
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    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    Mark, they are listed on the FMCSA registry as certified. I don't give a crap if it's self-certified or the man on the moon certified them.

    I already stated way back up there on the thread somewhere that if there's ever an issue during a roadside inspection, I'll let it be known.

    However, I'm pretty sure there won't be one...
     
  4. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    ex·am·ple
    iɡˈzampəl/
    noun
    noun: example; plural noun: examples
    1. 1.
      a thing characteristic of its kind or illustrating a general rule.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    And yet you refuse to show more then a single example that just happens to be the one your company sells.... Kinda like the Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen do. Only show example of Kirby vacuums when they show all the dirt in the carpet.....
     
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    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    How did this become a sales thread, it's clearly nothing to do with that.
    JFC already.

    The issue is a stupid, poorly thought out, rammed down the public's throat type of law.

    If it was done properly;

    1) FMCSA should specifically certify devices.

    ( telling mfgs they can "self certify" is absurd given the serious repercussions of any violations to your business)

    2) FMCSA should mandate a ELD data standard that all mfgs have to comply with AND require at least one connection for this specific purpose! .... mfgs should've been given a timeframe to make older trucks compatible with software updates and cables too.



    Right now, everyone is TOTALLY on their own with a "ELD" device that could easily be said doesn't comply and next thing you know they're shutting your business down!!
    THIS IS THE HUGE BS PART ^^

    What good is any MFGs guarantee when you can still find the FMCSA putting you out of business if they don't agree with the self certification?


    Poorly thought out legislation is the USA normality now. Sadly it could've been better thought out if they focused on quality of lawmaking ... Not slamming more thoughtless bills through just to satisfy special interest groups.
     
  7. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    I work for Rand, Got that? It would be unprofessional and unethical of me to show another manufacture's product.

    Since you are so bend on this, why don't you Google the other manufacture's and post them?

    And I used it strictly as an example of what one might look like. Now if you buy a RM and have a Volvo then you would need it. But, if you have another manufacture's device then I am sure they make one for their device.

    So please get over the "pushing" of an Rand Product. I am not a salesman.

    And since you asked,,, here is a spider on a cable.

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    CoyoteExpress Medium Load Member

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    So I use KeepTrucking in a 2012 Volvo with the VOLVO can bus cable ... runs nice
    and it a "Plug and Play"
    The unit with the Harness
    kt unit.jpg
    and thats the "Volvo" Harness who comes with the unit
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    And About ELD Ao...
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    The KeepTruckin Electronic Logbook App, when used alone, is a fully editable electronic log that is a replacement for paper logs. The standalone KeepTruckin Electronic Logbook App is compliant with USDOT / FMCSA rule 395.8 regarding a driver's record of duty status and Canada's commercial vehicle drivers hours of service regulations.

    The KeepTruckin ELD is a hardware device that connects to the diagnostic port (ECM) of a vehicle. When used in combination with the KeepTruckin Electronic Logbook App, the KeepTruckin ELD automatically records driving time in compliance with USDOT / FMCSA rule 395.15 regarding automatic on-board recording devices and the upcoming electronic logging device mandate. The KeepTruckin ELD is an optional paid service that works with the free KeepTruckin Electronic Logbook App
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    Rand have anything for a ram 3500 pickup ? OBDII port ? I am O/O with 1 truck that is also my DD ......This eld is crap for me as i use my truck everyday for personal use and work too. I just need a bare bones deal. The non FMCSA registered thing is crap. As mentioned above , they need to certify this crap so a bunch of guys arent left out in the wind in a few months when their choice of ELD isnt updated or in compliance!!
     
  10. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    You will have to call Rand and ask.

    ELD Fleet Sales & Support

    1-800-789-6277
    Sales and Billing: Monday - Friday, 8am to 5pm CST
    1-800-641-7263
    Technical Support: Monday - Friday, 7am to 6pm CST

    Mark
     
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