Cascadia Antenna Solutions

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by mike5511, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. craig_sez

    craig_sez Road Train Member

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    What are you goin on about..i just said to the other fella your haven better sucess than me..Hell lotsa folk are doin better than me
     
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  3. rabbiporkchop

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    Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how a random length of cable terminated in an impedance other than its own ( or close with a slight amount of reactance ) magically maintains a purely resistive 50 ohms along its entire length even when the load isn't. ..
    Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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  4. bored silly

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    hee hee your doing better than you know. you just haven't figured that out yet....see what happens with the skipshooter and take it from there.....
     
  5. Ridgeline

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    Boy you need to learn more.

    My advice is short-lived on this subject, I can't explain it nor point to any more sources for people to read and learn from as I have in the past.

    I offered what I see as a problem, you don't get it, instead you act as if I don't know what I’m talking about.

    here is part of one of the posts -> By the way one reason why these dipoles are not all working as they should be is because of none of you guys are listening to what is going on. You are allowing current to be induced through the shielding of the coax, causing common mode conditions. This is because you are trying to use a balanced antenna with an unbalance feedline and nothing in between >>>> you can't just throw a mount up on the truck with an second reflective or rf tuned ground being fed with an unbalanced feed line and expect it to work right, the feed line acts as part of the antenna at that point (common mode) and this isn't why you won't get a proper reading in your antenna analyzers.

    But hey I've figured that you would see this happening and why AAs won't show proper readings. For some reason the words common mode and differential mode have no meaning in the CB band so ...

    AND TO add to this, which is over your head so I will explain it simply when I worked on those trucks like the cascadia, the rf ground that was created was tuned to the antenna system as it provided the other half of the signal (remember how a dipole works?), it wasn't maintaining the 50 ohms of the feed line but rather closely near 300 ohms that was effected by the vehicle itself and the conditions of that vehicle.
     
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  6. bored silly

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    on another note fat boy products fat boy amps sells braided ground strap..... just putting that out there fyi... let the dip pole wars continue
     
  7. rabbiporkchop

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    I play devils advocate for the hundreds of thousands of truck drivers that are fed part of the story but deprived of the rest of the equation. I would venture to say that 99 percent of drivers subscribe to some sort of myth regarding feedline and have no idea what their feedpoint impedance is, or why the impedance presented to the transmitter is completely different.
    I recognize you have the knowledge to take care of your own needs, and that most drivers are clueless about taking care of their own antenna needs.
    Antenna tuners are an easy solution for those too lazy to figure out a more creative method or those requiring multiple bands.
    Here is a prime example of creative antenna matching without a tuner.
    Hopefully someone benefits from this.
     
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  8. Ridgeline

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    I don't think you are advocating for hundreds of thousands but more like a few hundred. The rest of the equation is been talked about Ad nauseam and still it leds back to a few problems that are solvable.

    But your assuming that they are going to figure this out to find better ways or to understand the RF creature, when in fact there is only one thing that they care about - if it works.

    The feed-line can be 75 ohms and the antenna 450 ohms, if it works it doesn't matter.

    I also try to share the knowledge but running into interference without reason seems to be a turn off on sharing that knowledge.

    Antenna tuners are not a fix all for many situations, it can't produce an rf ground nor can many of them provide anything like a balanced system for the antenna system. What it does is brings the load impedance closer to the antenna system impedance.

    That's just one solution for 40 meters on a monopole antenna. All things being equal, then it could help cb band but I don't see it happening when you are advocating a dipole.
     
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  9. craig_sez

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    It matters to me if it works vs works right..
     
  10. fargonaz

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    I subcribe to all myths, real or imagined.
     
  11. rabbiporkchop

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    I can't imagine why not. It seems to be a pretty standard matching procedure on many dipoles.
    http://www.dj0ip.de/vertical-antennas/hairpin-match/
     
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