Cat injectors

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by spudman76, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. SmokinCAT

    SmokinCAT Road Train Member

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    What serial prefix is this engine, and at any time has it been plugged in to rerate by a cat shop?

    Injectors just don't stop working part of the time, and worn out injectors actually tend to smoke more.

    How did they check the pressure?

    I hate to say it but your likely going to throw money at something that isn't going to fix your problem, only mask it.
     
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  3. SAR

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    I think it is a 6nz. He mentioned this prefix in his first post so I assume it's this one. I wonder if it was plugged in they could have given the low nox file?
     
  4. SmokinCAT

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    It's possible, but I think there is something with the fuel system being missed and not the injectors, new transfer pump could even be not working well.

    I would be going thru every fuel line and swapping filters before dropping $3500 on reman injectors that may not fix the issue, but that is just me.
     
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  5. spudman76

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    It's a 6NZ. And yes. I think they are missing something else. I ageee with you guys that all 6 injectors can't be bad at once. And like I said.... the truck will not blow and black smoke at all. No matter what we have done so far.

    SAR.... what is a low nox file?? Should I bring that up to them in the morning? I really don't want to drop 3500 and not fix the problem
     
  6. Superhauler

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    Did they replace the fuel check valve? I'm with smoking cat. The injectors just don't quit working like that. Now with an e-model the injectors don't work like an old b -model. The e-models injectors actually will fuel less with age. Where a b-model will run better.Do you have a restriction gauge for the fuel? Is it well above 5? If so you may have a fuel line that has swelled up from age restrictions fuel flow.
     
  7. spudman76

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    i believe that they did replace the check valves. I will have them check the fuel lines its crazy to think that everything was working fine before all the engine work
     
  8. sxdime

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    If they had the front structure off to fix oil leaks and did all that work and then the problem occurred...I would lean towards they didn't time the cam gear like it should be. I know you said they have checked the timing but if they got it a tooth off it will affect the power. Like the others have said. You will just be throwing money at it as far as replacing the injectors in hopes of the power coming back. There is some other issue other than injectors.
     
  9. little cat 500

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    if a 6nz is off one tooth it wiil get a cel light
     
  10. SAR

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    I believe engines after the year of 99 will already have the low nox file. It is a file cat installed into the ecm for emissions. Low nox is a programing they do with the ECM that reduces nox.

    In the older engines they had a file called pre low nox file, which is the better one. What happens is people take their truck into CAT for a rebuild or engine work then they'll reflash the ecm to the current low nox file. The owner then complains of lower power and bad mileage.

    I don't think this is your issue, but a fuel delivery problem.
     
  11. spudman76

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    alright. After being at the shop today, I confirmed that they checked all the things that you guys have mentioned. I ask again if they are certain that the truck is timed right, they said yes. Also, fuel pump has been replaced and the check valves were replaced too. They did a cylinder cut out test to see if there was a dead hole. All cylinders are firing which means that all the injectors are working. I asked them if they checked the boost sensor, They did and it is functioning correctly.

    At this point i dont know what else could be wrong with it. We even double checked that the right head was installed since that was the only thing that i replaced on the motor. If all the injectors are working and functioning, is it possible that they may not be working at 100%? Do any of you guys have any other suggestions before we change the injectors??

    Also, all of the fuel pressures are right where they are suppose to be. They have only been able to get 20lbs of boost out of it. Should be running between 30 and 35. If there was a fuel line that was bad or plugged wouldnt my fuel pressures be down??
     
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