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CDL or NO CDL

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by tmlonghorns, Jul 17, 2009.

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  1. Jul 23, 2009 #31
    tmlonghorns

    tmlonghorns Light Load Member

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    I know. All is well. I wasn't offended and probably would have done the same thing.
     
    tmlonghorns, Jul 23, 2009
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  3. Jul 26, 2009 #32
    troublemaker_racing

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    The point you are missing is that your truck needs to be registered as a motorhome(RV) to slide by the rules.If you remember i just did this.

    My insurance is less than 1k per year.
    i don't have to run thru the scales(but i do so they don't have to chase me down)

    All i did to my truck to make it a florida legal RV was to install a fixed toilet with a holding tank,and sign an affidavid saying this is what i did to make it an RV.this is how most states do this.

    I think you will have trouble with johnny law with the "according to the IRS i'm not a business thing".
    I would just tell mr lawman you don't recieve money for anything,not even a hotdog,did you not read the link i put up about the racers in florida?
     
    troublemaker_racing, Jul 26, 2009
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  4. Jul 26, 2009 #33
    luvtheroad

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    Air-brakes? Isn't a CDL A required for them?
     
    luvtheroad, Jul 26, 2009
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  5. Jul 26, 2009 #34
    Roadmedic

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    CDL B is the license for them.
     
    Roadmedic, Jul 26, 2009
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    luvtheroad Thanks this.
  7. Jul 27, 2009 #35
    troublemaker_racing

    troublemaker_racing Bobtail Member

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    not if it is a rv..............
     
    troublemaker_racing, Jul 27, 2009
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  8. Jul 27, 2009 #36
    tmlonghorns

    tmlonghorns Light Load Member

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    Slow down and understand that everyone situation is going to be different.
    You need a CDL becasue you are engaged in a commercial activity. Although you get no money for driving the truck and the stuff is yours, you use it compete for $. There lies the difference. I did read your thread and honestly disagreed with you at first. But I listened and asked questions and I was wrong. This is how I know what I am talking about in MY situation.
    You can think I may run into issue with Johnny Lawman but I have consulted with the Michigan Motor Carrier Division of the Michigan State Police along with the USDOT. I will take their advice.
    Air brakes you get around my getting an F endorsement which among other things allows you to operate a vehicle equipped with air brakes.
     
    tmlonghorns, Jul 27, 2009
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  9. Jul 27, 2009 #37
    tmlonghorns

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    CDL B is only for a single vehicle and not a combination vehicle. Has nothing to do with air brakes
     
    tmlonghorns, Jul 27, 2009
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  10. Jul 27, 2009 #38
    phroziac

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    some states have a special endorsement for airbrakes in non commercial vehicles. Not mine, but make sure to check on that. All we have in michigan is the R endorsement for double trailers for recreational use...
     
    phroziac, Jul 27, 2009
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  11. Jul 27, 2009 #39
    tmlonghorns

    tmlonghorns Light Load Member

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    Show me the regs from one state that has an air brake endorsement requirement for someone who is not running under a CDL.
    I have checked and have not found a single state. That is why guys with RV's can run anywhere.
    Once it is established that you do need a CDL, all CDL requirments no longer apply.
    Exception is scales......MOST, not all, scales say vehicles or trucks over X tons must enter. In that case, yes you must enter. but if the sign says All commercial vehicles, then no, you do not have to enter.
     
    tmlonghorns, Jul 27, 2009
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  12. Jul 28, 2009 #40
    phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    They exist...in canada. Sorry, but I got that information from some people who apparently thought an R endorsement had something to do with air brakes. (it is for private double towing)

    I remember one time when I pulled into a scale in wyoming. The DOT inside informed me that I only needed to enter a scale if there was a sign saying "All commercial vehicles must enter.", and that since i had already cleared a weigh station when i entered the state, i was clear until I left the state. I was like, WTF?
     
    phroziac, Jul 28, 2009
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