Cell phone ban

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Goodneighbor, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. Trucail

    Trucail Medium Load Member

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    Not only that, but then we have to be on the phone more to get directions. hmmmm
     
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  3. Trucail

    Trucail Medium Load Member

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    After really paying attention for a couple of days to other drivers, while in the passenger seat of course, I really noticed the problem. It's not the talking on the phone that is distracting. People on bluetooths didn't have any issues that I could see with driving. It's the stupid ones holding the hand sets to there heads, which apparently keeps them from turning to look, or trying to see past their arms! They don't even try to pay attention to anything else. IF YOU CAN'T SEE MY FACE, I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING! lol there's a sticker for the trucks.
     
  4. D33RHUNT3R

    D33RHUNT3R Medium Load Member

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    Well the FACT is the horse and buggy days are gone ...Deal with it !!!

    Just because a few idiot drivers are out there doesn't mean ALL should suffer.. Good luck with your idea with banning everything in the truck.. for every way folks try to stop something someone else will just figure out away around it... Surely your smart enough to realize that..

    You might look into a different line of work.. this doesn't seem to be your bag .. Maybe a LEO then you could run around trying to enforce the nanny state you would love to see so much ...
     
  5. Tazz

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    Well of course they are, the horse and buggy that is. Most should be thankful because feeding themselves would be quite impossible for them. However that is not the topic of discussion.

    Your invalid supposition was that without a cell phone drivers would be nodding off. Quite a silly position just on the face alone.

    No where have I said ban everything. What I did say was to disable the use when in motion. Feel free to take a break from your duties and while away the latest gossip, get directions, load info, plan activities, set up intimate relations, order pizza........

    Frankly as long as your off the road I nor anyone else cares about your phone use.

    And finally you people need better talking point writers because you use them incorrectly.Nanny state laws are laws written to protect you from your self. Trust me if you could guarantee that you would only eliminate yourself with you actions on a cell phone I would fully support your use. Unfortunately people take out innocent civilians when making poor decisions. I mean following your logic DUI should be repealed. Heck it is only a few bad drunks right? Agressive and Erratic driving laws......Nah who the he'll wants just a few drag racers removed from your neighborhood.

    But much like CSA, EOBR's, Texting, Hand Held Use the change is coming to address misuse of new technology. Not near soon enough in my opinion but it is coming.
     
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  6. D33RHUNT3R

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    Tazz do you ever use or have you ever used the CB when you are driving? obviously you would have to agree they would also need to either ban them or put another device to disable those while the truck is in motion.. and any other means of communication.. Do you really think thats realistically gonna happen .. I don't


    It would be wrong to disable the phone for a person not on duty or driving,right ?..

    So the idea of putting something on the truck that would disable the phone/CB/internet just wouldn't work on a TEAM truck to say the least.. We can agree here right ?


    Oh and by the way GOOD Morning !!!


    PS I hope your not driving right now ...LMAO j/k


    I understand your frustation, But IMO your going way overboard thinking they should put something on a truck to disable all cell phones when the truck is moving and I truly doubt that will ever happen.. Think 911-- your driving along solo and a you see a major accident just happened in the eastbound lanes and your traveling west at 62 mph and its late say 3am and your the only other vehicle around .. are you going to wait several minutes to stop the truck when seconds may count before you make that 911 call ?...That what it would be like if your phone is disabled.. someone just died because you couldn't make that call..

    In the case of Team drivers that would mean up to 22 hrs a day the team couldn't use the phone .. that just aint right either or nessesary IMO....


    and what about all the other electronic devices and passengers that distract drivers? TV, Qcomm,CB ect? what do you suggest they just strip the truck of all communication devices and other distractions? or are those ok ?
     
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  7. Tazz

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    See your fixated on trucks. What I am talking about is all vehicles and the technology being built into the phones themselves.

    Qcom is disabled while moving. Cb's can be a useful tool in alerting drivers to hazardous conditions (real #### hazards not the insipid endless questions and comments about coops and bears) to my mind off setting the danger they do pose. In your example stopping is an option(And I would say a requirement of decency but that is just me) thus the call could be made. GPS's should be equipped liken Qcom to not allow input while in movement.

    I have no sympathy nor concern for team drivers over solo, company drivers over O/O, hot shot over truckload or LTL, nor commercial over private personal vehicle. I support and foresee a complete technological solution to misuse of these devices.

    Nope not driving on vacation in fact. Jumped on this morning to get May Trucking's info so I can check on a driver I called about yesterday on my way back from Florida with my daughter. I needed the DOT number and corporate address for the video submission to the FMCSA.
     
  8. D33RHUNT3R

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    If you think they will pass a law stopping cell phone use or GPS in private vehicles is going to happen your just wishful thinking .. That will NEVER happen I assure you...

    I see you like your CB.. But it is not even hands free.. Your wishes seems very hipocritical to me ... just saying..
     
  9. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    If you can't see the difference between a CB (typically limited to line-of-sight range...unless you're running more than the legal power limit) and a cell phone (talk to anyone, anywhere), there really isn't any point in arguing with you. The person on the other end of the CB knows that 1) you are probably driving, 2) are near enough to you to see what the road conditions are, and 3) may be communicating information to you which makes you and those around you SAFER because you are now aware of something before you would be able to see it (i.e. traffic backed up ahead, somebody stopped on the shoulder crowding the fog line, gator in the travel lane, etc...). The person on the other end of the phone doesn't have a clue what you are doing, where you are at, or what might lie ahead of you on the road. The CB is a tool which makes TRAVEL easier and safer. The phone is a tool which makes keeping in touch with family, friends, and business associates easier and more convenient. The FMCSA isn't concerned with what is convenient for you as a driver, only what is safer for roadway users and the general public....it is, after all, what the "S" in FMCSA stands for.

    ...and if you "see a major accident just happened in the eastbound lanes and your traveling west at 62 mph and its late say 3am and your the only other vehicle around" and "seconds may count", you should be stopping the truck to render aid to those involved so that you can give ACCURATE information to the 911 dispatcher....how many were involved, how many are injured, the extent of the injuries, etc. instead of just saying "there's a bad wreck at mm###". When they just get a vague report of a crash or any other incident, they typically roll a LEO past the scene to investigate the call prior to sending fire & ems...and remember, "seconds may count". If the people in the wreck are lucky, dispatch MIGHT also roll an ambulance or a fire truck to the scene, too. They aren't going to roll full force until they know what is going on. A detailed accounting of how many are injured, though, and they can send the proper response to treat those injuries.
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    A lot of states ARE passing laws prohibiting cell phone use in cars. Cars are outside of the jurisdiction of the FMCSA, which only has the power to regulate FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIERs. This is why the cell phone ban ONLY applied to motor carriers engaged in INTERSTATE commerce, and hazmat haulers intrastate...because the FMCSA has jurisdiction over those two groups. INTRASTATE motor carriers who do not haul hazmat are NOT affected by the ban, because the FMCSA has no jurisdiction over them.
     
  11. D33RHUNT3R

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    That may be true, But I'll bet dinner that does not apply to passengers in the vehicle..and my guess would be also that it doesn't apply to using it with a hands free device...
     
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