Chain Binders which are better?

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  1. norb5150

    norb5150 Light Load Member

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    That is why you buy frangible rounds (hollow point) for defense. People don't understand the they think it just ruthless to use hollow point defense ammo. The expansion of a hollow point is to increase the force applied and to decrease travel through and out of the subject.
     
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  3. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Every time I throw a chain I make sure the links are lined up. When using a ratchet binder it's almost a must. But it is true, a twisted chain has the potential to twist and loosen.
     
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  4. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Every hand gun i own is loaded with hollow points. But in close range there is still the worry of penetration with the bigger guns. This is why in a home invasion scenario I'm grabbing my 380 not my 40, 45 or 44. Or heck even my 9. Plus, god forbid you miss the target, the larger rounds are going right through that interior wall and striking whomever is on the other side.

    And the fact is, none of us will be having trained hardened combat men entering our homes. We need to be prepared to defend ourselves against the wannabe criminals looking to steal our tvs, jewerly and stereos. A small caliber works just fine against that sort.
     
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  5. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    I have the same concerns. There are alternatives. One of them I am looking at are rubber slugs for the 12 gauge. Will not penetrate the walls. HOWEVER, at close range, they have known to be lethal. Win-Win.
     
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    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    I looked at(and almost bought) a small revolver called the home defender. You could load it with 410 shells. A 410 is definately not strong enough to drop anything bigger than a duck at range. But in the point blank ranges inside a home? Fairly certain it would get the job done.
     
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    Bought this gun for the home. Mainly for when I am not here. Holds 5 rounds. Was thinking of loading 2 rubber slugs up front and the real deal behind them.
     
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    When you shoot somebody you shoot to kill. There's been many lawsuits against people who intentionally maimed intruders instead of killing them. Then you have their word against theirs instead of yours alone.
     
  9. spyder7723

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    Down here in florida i don't have that worry about lawsuits. And while i agree with the shooting to kill statement, there is going to always be the worry of penetration an interior wall and hitting one of my kids or wife. Id rather lean towards smaller calibers inside the home for that reason.
     
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    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Lol, Great minds think a like....? Shot shells can do enough damage to give you the upper hand no doubt.
     
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  11. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Stood and watched law enforcement work on a young lady with a .40 through her chest. She was maybe 125lbs. The next day I looked for the bullet, entered the wall behind the bedroom door and out the other side into the bathroom and into the vanity, it was somewhere in the wall behind the vanity, I never did find it. The light splatter of blood and body tissue on the white wall is still etched in my mind. Some call me to cautious, but we all have our own experiences.
     
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