Cheating on logs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. snowblind

    snowblind Heavy Load Member

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    once again the govt will tell you when you need to rest and when to drive,we all know nobody gets tired in middle of day or at 3 am.but push on driver the govt says your rested.
     
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  3. Meltom

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    The Govt. isn't telling you when to rest and when to work. They're telling you that what your restrictions are, you need to make the choice if you are too tired to continue. I can appreciate you not liking the regulations, but they are what they are simply not following them will not change them.
     
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  4. snowblind

    snowblind Heavy Load Member

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    the 14 hour rule is the problem,let the driver decide when he needs to nap or sleep.i am not condoning running lots of miles,you cannot tell a man he does not get sleepy because he has been off 10 hours.have you ever driven a truck,worked the hours we do.i have been out here a long time i know when to sleep when to run no matter what my log book says,i am safer because of it
     
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  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I have driven and worked hours similar to what I assume you do. In your opinion you're safer, but that doesn't have change the fact that you're electing to not be compliant.
     
  6. snowblind

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    last post on this.you would rather have me compliant than safe,that's sad.
     
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Again, those are you interpretations. They're choices that you make, you love of naps and disdain for rules give me the opinion that not only aren't you compliant you're not safe, you merely think you're safe.
     
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  8. mickeyrat

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    echos what the NTSB or some such agenecy said about the train driver who derailed. The driver had worked nights exclusively but two weeks prior to the accident he was put on days. Agency rep said something to the effect of he had the time for rest and so.......
     
  9. Stump

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    So, what your saying is anybody who gets tired during 14 hour days, and works, at times, 7-10 days straight, does not get proper rest at night. I assume your a doctor who does study's on this. Explain why surgeons have rooms at hospitals to take naps when they are tired, I guess they need sleep studies done on them to.

    There are plenty of studies that show a 30 to 60 min nap is a perfectly health thing to do. I've submitted these studied to plenty of groups fighting the fight for what's right, flexibility in HOS.

    Now, what have you done to help our industry?
     
  10. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I've educated hundreds of drivers on the hours of service regulations, taught drivers how to split break and educated them on using electronic logs. So I've done a small part in helping the industry. Additionally I've spent multiple hours teaching drivers how to better plan their trips to stay safe and deliver freight on time, most of the time the two are not mutually exclusive.
     
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  11. Stump

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    Why not help your drivers by writing your congressmen, and help fight for more flexibility on hour of service.

    I like the idea of a 1-2hour sleeper birth split to stop your clock, if you do this, you'll have a 16 hour day. Local drivers have 16 hours without a split, why can't over the road drivers. Most my naps happen waiting to load, this would help, in my opinion.
     
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