Class A licesce

Thank you for the info DB, now if we could just get FDOT to read this thread. I have two buds right now waiting for court dates for not having a CDL A, in a combination under 26k.

Like I said in my last post, they are interpreting the law as trailer over 10k then Class A.

 

Doesn't he though?

 

So what are the regulations on exceeding the GVWR of a given vehicle? Like if I have a trailer that's rated at 10,000lbs. I beef up the existing axles and add another one. It's still rated at 10k but can be loaded much heavier. Now what?

 

I call HIJACKER!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Well there is an interpretation for that. It talks about removal of a VIN plate that removes the GVWR tag.

Question 3: If a vehicle’s Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) plate and/or VIN number are missing but its actual gross weight is 26,001 pounds or more, may an enforcement officer use the latter instead of GVWR to determine the applicability of the Part 383?

Guidance: Yes. The only apparent reason to remove the manufacturer’s Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) plate or VIN number is to make it impossible for roadside enforcement officers to determine the applicability of part 383, which has a GVWR threshold of 26,001 pounds. In order to frustrate willful evasion of safety regulations, an officer may therefore presume that a vehicle which does not have a manufacturer’s GVWR plate and/or does not have a VIN number has a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more if:
(1) It has a size and configuration normally associated with vehicles that have a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more; and
(2) It has an actual gross weight of 26,001 pounds or more.

A motor carrier or driver may rebut the presumption by providing the enforcement officer the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) plate, the VIN number or other information of comparable reliability which demonstrates, or allows the officer to determine, that the GVWR of the vehicle is below the jurisdictional weight threshold.


I think question 4 may be more in line with what you are looking for:

Question 4: If a vehicle with a manufacturer’s Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of less than 26,001 pounds has been structurally modified to carry a heavier load, may an enforcement officer use the higher actual gross weight of the vehicle, instead of the GVWR, to determine the applicability of part 383?

Guidance: Yes. The motor carrier’s intent to increase the weight rating is shown by the structural modifications. When the vehicle is used to perform functions normally performed by a vehicle with a higher Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR), §390.33 allows an enforcement officer to treat the actual gross weight as the GVWR of the modified vehicle.

Hope this helps.

 

Yup, that's what I was fishing for.

 

so what happened to these guys...

 

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d06/vc12804_9.htm

read the bold lettering about 5 inches down...not good... chp gave me this 3 times

 

ok,,,thanks to DB, I have figured out that I DONT need a CDL to drive a Ford E350 and pull and 8.5 x 16 enclosed trailer. Now, since I don't NEED a CDL, do I still NEED to get DOT#'s? and, do I still NEED to use a log book? Been driving big truck for over 4 years and thought this would be simple, changing to a van with a trailer...LOL Boy, was I wrong....

 

Different truck.

Same rules.