Clean MVR BUT CAN'T FIND WORK!

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  1. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    "must be 25 Y/O"
    "Must have 1 year exp"
     
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    Yeah, but it looks like they are starting a driving school. So those criteria must be flexible.
     
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    I only looked at the mega companies while I was in CDL training because of the dozens of recruiters we had come talk to us. I've been steady on craigslist for awhile now, having 24 hours in a day and nothing else to do gives me plenty of time to hunt down trucking companies. I've got a few friends in trucking and I've even been in contact with some of the instructors from the school I went too. I've applied at local concrete companies, trash and waste disposal, mulching, furniture and construction. I've about thought of it all already and thats why i'm come here to see if there is anything I haven't though of. I figured a class B job would be a cake walk to get while holding a class A license with almost all endorsements. And thanks for the heads up on Sunset trucking, they require you to be 25 and I have about 2 years until I'm that old, I'm still green behind the ears at 22 years old.


    RickG I understand that, I watched many people go back thru the school I went thru for the refresher course because they waited too long. I still have a little over 2 months before I'd have to do that, from what I heard you have about 90 days after you finish school.
     
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    Man oh man I know about that. I fought it though, got a good lawyer and beat a fictitious assault charge. Was offered Plea deals with probation and refused every one. They said if you lose you will go to jail. I told them I didn't care I will not admit to something I didn't do. Went to trial and was acquitted.

    Delaware is the Home of Joe Biden who sponsored the Violence Against Women Act, so the courts here feel a special need to believe whatever BS a woman says. Luckily the truth shall set you free worked in my case, but I have many firends who are stunned that I won.

    Always fight if you are truly innocent. Never take a deal. It can come back t haunt you.
     
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    VAWA is big bucks. Minnesota gets over $8 Million every year from it and most other states are getting that or more. That's over $500 million annually in the US.
     
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    I can say thats some charges I'd never want against me, and sadly I know how women can be. I don't think they understand how severe it is when they go around saying"assault! assault!" I've had some buddies get into deep ##### because they made a girl mad and they came up with some story.
     
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    Don't mean to be harsh, but the only reason you haven't found work is because you're either not looking hard enough, or being creative enough, or are too picky in who you want to work for.

    The company I work for originally told me that I didn't fit their criteria. After being in a similar situation to yours, I started going over the recruiters heads, with every company that told me no, which was well over 100 companies. Eventually I found a company that took a chance on me, but I had to convince them then I deserved an opportunity. The recruiters only have so much power in who they can, and cannot hire. If you're close to fitting the criteria, they can sometimes get you approved. My point is, if the recruiters aren't able to give you the nod, then go to someone in the company that can. Explain the situation, make it heartfelt, and ask for an opportunity.

    Search out self-insured companies. Until you get at least 1 year of experience, those will most likely be the only companies to give you a shot. There is a truck, and company out there somewhere waiting for you, you just have to find it.
     
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    I've been giving it my best shot so far, and I still have a few companies I'm waiting to hear back from. I have a lot of guys in the industry talking to their companies trying to give me a little of a head start. I've never thought of trying to go over the recruiters, but i've experienced 3 times so far where the recruiter said I could be hired, then someone else in the company tell me there is no way and wouldn't waste my time sending me out to their orientation to just be sent back home(TMC USXPRESS USA Trucking). Usually the recruiters try hard to blow smoke to say I'm not disqualified then to have someone else in the company call and say "I don't know why they would tell you that, we can't hire you". I was told the self insured, usually larger companies, could hire me easier than the smaller ones and then I've been told to stay away from the large ones. I've been spending about 12-14 hours a day on the computer and phone asking different people about companies and looking up companies that are more lenient on hiring people with a sketchy background, and those hours are no exaggeration at all. Probation seems to be my biggest problem but I'm not losing hope and I know I'll find my perfect fit eventually. Thanks again to everyone and your advice I appreciate more than you could know!


    Happy Trucking

    DJ
     
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    This is not the same as Alford Plea. What he has is a form of deferred sentence. Essentially, if you successfully complete the court requirements they do not proceed with sentencing and will dismiss the charges. The Alford Plea just lets you plead guilty without admitting guilt in hopes for a plea deal to lesser charges, completely different. You would still face sentencing for those lesser charges in the Alford Plea and the charges would not be dismissed.

    I've had deferred judgment for two marijuana related felonies so I know exactly what you've been through. The only difference in deferred judgment from what you have is you do not plead guilty or found guilty and they put the trial on hold, instead of a sentence. Mine was a roommate in college and four other guys who got busted with a large amount in our dorm room when I wasn't even there. Still arrested me even after passing a drug test to show it wasn't something I was involved in.

    I'm guessing the big problem is your case isn't dismissed until you complete your probation. Legally right now, you are still charged with those crimes without a resolution. You have a deal in place but it has not been completed until you complete the terms. That is probably why companies are staying away from you. To them, it is merely a case without a resolution and there's the chance you could screw it up and end up at trial. I'm not saying you would screw it up, just that a company would most likely take this view.

    Like Ex-Con-Trucker said, it's possible, but I think it'll actually be harder with a pending case than someone with a past record.

    The good news is I think you were under 21 at the time from what you said, and it is possible to get the record expunged immediately after the proceedings are dismissed. Not sure how old you were for sure though. It appears as well they remove the judgment of guilt from the record which is good. I know with mine, it can't be expunged ever since Indiana sucks, but my record just says case dismissed per diversion. Diversion is just another term for deferred judgement or deferred sentence, but covers both situations in Indiana.

    Bad news is might be out of luck until you're finished. If you're unable to get the record expunged, you may have to put it down on applications that specifically say you must report deferred judgment or sentence. It's usually very fine print that states this on an application, but I'd say I only saw it on 25% of applications. I've just kept documentation that shows case dismissed and a document that shows all court filings for the case which shows I never plead guilty since that's all that really separates deferred judgment and deferred sentencing. My company knows about it and had no problem with it, even without showing them the documentation.
     
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    I've had alford pleas. I am MORE than aware of what they are, how they work and what they mean and do for you and to you.

    Alfords allow you to simply plead that there is enough evidence to convict you and you are not admitting guilt.

    He's in that legal limbo where he can't say he's guilty, he's not innocent and he's not under court ordered process.

    And most business people REALLY don't want to have to deal with someone in that position unless they are already employed there. And even then it gets sketchy.