I haven't been logging for awhile (one of the nice sides of driving school bus) but, if my memory serves me correctly, doesn't the situation you mention fall under the "safe haven" rule and as such you would be allowed to proceed to a safe place to park within the same city as the customer, or nearest if none were available in that city?
Comments/suggestions welcome. swift
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I don't do OTR either but I would think so.
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I am in my 5th week at Dakota County Technical College and we just learned even more about logs today. I don't recall it being called "safe haven", but there was a section where you could run IF you were out of hours; such as severe traffic, bad weather, etc. and you needed to find a safe place to park. They really push the logging. We actually log our activity every day. Whether I am driving, in class, or out in the yard, or at home. We need to keep track so we won't fudge our logs and we can always stay legal. Our instructor worked for Schneider for 11 years and said he never once had any major issues and never fudged his logs.
People who tend to fudge their logs will run in to trouble eventually. The rules are in place for a reason - to be safe! -
I think the safe haven clause has to be a more unforseen circumstance. Not sure a slow receiver would fit the bill.
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Mo, EXACTLY.
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Why wouldn't it? How could you know they'd take all day to unload you?
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(cough...choke) Um... I take it he worked in the office? Er... on second thought, it was Schneider. You don't have to worry about fudging your logs when you only get 1400 miles a week.

Seriously, they'll fill you full of crap at school. But you'll see soon enough how it goes in the real worldunless you go to work for the "Great Pumpkin". -
-these companies have you tracked by satellite = too much log BS and you are history. I would say 2000+ paid miles min/wk at SNI = not a company for those that like to sit.
Freight is low and fuel costs are high = more pressure on drivers/dispatchers. Very easy to delete an underperforming driver under these conditions. -
DOT regs 395.2 detail what exemptions that can be used for continuing past your 11 hours driving. Unfortunately for we truckers, they do not include sitting at a shipper or receiver. This is unfair, but as we all know, the regs aren't always fair or realistic. I've sat at shippers and receivers for the good part of day, and this kind of situation causes us at times, to illegally move when the shipper or receiver compels us to via a threat of trespassing arrest.
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Maybe should ask for them to put the "move or be arrested" threat in writing so that, if stopped and cited, we could show that the shipper was the one that directed us to violate HOS. If enough of that gets back to the company, they can work on the shipper or receiver to quit causing drivers to have to violate safety regs. Companies are getting more sensitive about this, they say.
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