Considering Running Your Own Authority
Here's a very general idea about how much it'll cost to start running your own authority. , you'll have a good foundation of knowledge to add to your experience. You can do most of the preparation work for yourself and it won't be too hard or difficult, just apply yourself and meditate on the instructions given at every step in the process and you'll do just fine. I've always said, if you're not willing to focus in on the details of the paper work involved with starting to run your own authority, you're probably not ready for the additional focus required to be successful at running your own authority.
General Cash Outlay for Operating Authority
300.00 MC# FMCSA Application
1250.00 Insurance Primary Liability and Cargo
1000.00 Down Payment on a new to fairly new Trailer
500.00 Tax Tag Title
100.00 Compliance Services providing Consortium for random drug and alcohol screening
100.00 If you chose to use a Compliance Service to set up all the other compliance paperwork
12.00 New Mexico Weight and Distance Application 2.00 and 10.00 per Certificate
10.00 New York Application and Sticker
20.00 IFTA Application and Sticker
3,500.00 Roughly is the cash layout in general on average to make the switch
Heavy Highway Use Tax may or may not be due, as already owning your truck you should know by now it's about 550.00 annually Form2290
- California State Application is no charge if you have not run miles under you authority
- Kentucky's Application is free for the KYU
Any one of these may have change, but these prices are fairly current at the time I'm posting the material 1st QRT 2009
One of the first things you'll want to concern yourself with is what is my responsibility at the Authority level, what should I expect to earn and HOW" am I going to do it. Here's a few things to keep in mind and a little bit of what happen to me at the Authority Level
III Business responsibility: This includes but is not limited to the previous responsibilities of the load and the unit, the total responsibility for the creation of the business, the structure of its services, the range and scope of the business, the choosing of all services to the business, all legal requirements, employment requirements, compliance requirements, record keeping e.g. maintenance, driver logs, qualification and medical/drug and alcohol screening and random test, filings, taxes, penalties, legal injunctions, negotiating of all contracts involved in the general day to day business, setting rates, finding loads, gauging the market, research and development "which is by the way is what you're doing now, permits, buying and selling of equipment, trailers and other load securing devices, recovery in breakdown situations, training, office and location, rents, utilities, and all other overhead financial responsibilities, and the list goes on and on and on.
One of the main things to continue to bear in mind is, If you have all this double the responsibility it should go without saying that you should be paid double of what you are paid at the company level. I did nothing but math and Spreadsheets the whole time I owned equipment, and over and over again I found that those that did not have a working knowledge of the market were paid as such that after their expenses they were making in most cases half of what the company drivers make. I'll be showing you some of those numbers. Point is it should never be and the shame is that in an average market with a high demand for truck it never should happen.
Authority stage: The decision to get my own Authority came as somewhat a surprise and carried its fair share of a mystery to me; I had left Panther thinking the grass was greener on the other side over at Tri-State. It wasn't, I think maybe I could have stayed but I was already use to freely finding my own loads, at least outside the service area and sometimes inside all depending on the situation but there was, let's just say, a different kind of environment there for that. So it got me to thinking, maybe God is putting out a challenge for me, and as you can tell I'm always up to it if the Lord "opens the door" so I check the bank and they said "No!", I was some what relieved . I'd just stick it out and who know what the future would hold. But I remembered I'd been with the Credit Union for a long time, so I thought Why not try, turns out, they help me get the loan for the trailer. So the door was open and three weeks later I was on my own Authority and the Lord bless me to learn so much I can't list it all here, so I decided to write a book, so here it is.
Considering your own authority?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by JoBernard, Feb 18, 2010.
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This is extremely good information and these guys that want to lean towards a fleece program can figure out by looking at load boards and asking REAL owner operators with THEIR own authority what they get in rates then figure that .89-.90 CPM and some pathetic FSC is getting bent royally by these bottom feeder companies when they tell these drivers that they are doing them a favor helping them to get a truck! Yeah they are! You do the paying they keep 1/2 - 2/3 of the rate of pay! Seems fair to me! ROFLMFAO!
I'll give you a gov web site just so you can see what the produce rates are at and it's NOT what these bottom feeders are telling you they are! Just look through it and note the date of the posting! It's a weekly thing! GET SMART before you fleece a truck! BUY IT!
http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/wa_fv190.txt
Yes they are down BUT this is because these produce companies are playing the trucking industry as fools!Go to the store and see if THAT price has fallen? Yep that what I thought! Sit there and NOT haul their produce and see where the rates will go AND if you are savvy enough you can get a better rate with a little wheeling and dealing!
BUT the gist of this matter is do you think that that bottom feeder that's "selling, renting" you a truck and making FORTY- FIFTY CENTS A MILE off of you is being anything but honest with you? If you do then you really need to go to drug rehab! You drive 500 miles for them and you're paying them $250 a day! Go back and look at those prices that JoBenard posted and figure out how many miles you would ONLY have to drive for that bottom feeder before you cleared what it would take you to do! Then ask again if you're in a good deal! These days a penny is a penny and when it bypasses your pocket it ain't doing you any good! -
i'm curious what you think is the best kind of trucking to go with your own authority. I have done van and reefer, once I own my truck I am looking to maximize profits and naturally I have been looking into getting my own authority. however I am not sure reefer loads are the way to go. I am used to being busy and running but I am worried about not being able to get enough fright running reefer along with the expense of a trailer.
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With the 101 or any size actually but 101 is just a little more freight or either kind reefer or dry, and AIR RIDE ON ALL. That's two kinds of freight you can't haul on anything else. The unit doesn't always have to be running to make money! I've done many loads, cold out dry back or gone for weeks only on either type.
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Do the step deck or double drop with bulk heads. Again two types of loads. High cube or flatbed. Just set up the bulkheads and away you go. In these times maximizing a load is the most important. I went years dong the same on a reefer. I'd get 2 LTL's and make more off of them due to the mileage rate. Don't think that 12 pallets is a full load! USE THAT CUBEAGE! I'd rather be hauling paying freight that sitting next to a dozen flat beds or drys or reefers waiting for a load! They ARE the competition!bigbyrc and The Challenger Thank this. -
bigbyrc, Lepton1, truckerdaddy24 and 1 other person Thank this.
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I have a serious question about obtaining your own authority. I have 3 drug felonies from the state of PA. I was arrested for pos. w. intent to deliver marijuana back when I was in college. My license in PA was suspended due to this. Since then I obtained a CDL in WA state, I've been OTR for the past 2 1/2 years. Have worked steadily for a trucking company out of Chicago. I feel that I am ready to take the next step and start my own authority. My QUESTION is as follows: 1. will I be granted authority given my prior felonies? and 2. will an insurance company accept me and or the company I would like to start since I have the drug felonies. My driving record is clear, no violations whatsoever. My PA license was suspended only because that is the law when charged, but it had nothing to due with me driving or anything like that. It has however been restored and all my legal responsibilities have been concluded. Any information would be very useful, thank you.
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Don't tip toe around, spit it out and say what you really want to say.
None the less, I disagree though somewhat. If you were to add FSC for all miles (not just loaded), discounted: fuel (big differences from the pump), insurance (almost 1/2 the cost w/higher coverage), repairs, PMs, truck wash, support for breakdown out on the road, truck parts, services, tires, if not all at least partial tolls, etc... and on top of which you don't have to call every broker in town / stand in front of load board looking for your next load. How about not having to wait net 30/60/90 days to get paid or fight to collect if they don't pay (which could be big headaches + time consuming), might pay for certain expenses when you're little short on $$ out on the road (major repairs, fines, etc...), solve disputes (w/customers, brokers, etc...) and so many other minuscule details that might otherwise make or break some budding businesses. When times are good, no one worries about the scraps left on the table but in trouble times it might be better to have an umbrella. So in essence, .89-.90 CPM w/.25 - 33+ (?) might not be worst than independent o/o with his own authority getting $1.50 per mile. Your mileage may vary, to each their own.
Well, with that all said and done, it doesnt mean I totally disagree either. Just saying theres always another side to look at. -
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