Continuous Driving

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by KANSAS TRANSIT, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,844
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0

    I understand that, it was just a scenario, not written in stone, but it DOES let the driver slide his times around quite a bit without running into the end of his clock.

    As I said, this is NOT something that the company is advocating, just had some drivers asking about it and was making sure that it could still be done and not be affected by the new rules.

    Stan
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Bayle

    Bayle Road Train Member

    3,060
    1,228
    Aug 30, 2007
    Cottage Grove, MN
    0
    Yeah, I realized after I posted that it was being a bit too literal, and just figured I wait to respond instead of amending. I myself tend to do 7-10 hrs a day, and it averages out in the end.
     
    KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this.
  4. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

    12,647
    25,589
    Nov 23, 2012
    Yukon, OK
    0
    When I'm on hold with dispatch I always log Off Duty. By the time I get a live person on the line I've got my 30 minute break. Easy peasy, nice and easy....
     
    MNdriver Thanks this.
  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,372
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    Day to load/unload. Loose 4-6 hours driving (more typical than non-typical). Call it do that TWICE a week. Loose 800 miles. Now that 3500 now becomes 2700. Do you allow your drivers to count dock time as off-duty/sleeper? And you can't really make up those 4-6 hours either.

    If you start your day at 7 am at a dock loading/unloading. You can't get reloaded until 2 PM. You can't stop your 14-hour clock enough to make up for it. Can't even take advantage of the 8/2 split. Now you've lost that entire day driving but enough to get to/from a TS or some other place to take your 10 hour break. You might be able to squeeze in 200-225 miles somehow.

    at $0.41 CPM, that's now costing the driver some REAL coin. $328 per week. If he's luck and gets two weeks paid off, that's now $16,400 in lost wages for your employee annually.

    Not sure about you, but $328 * 4 is $1312 per month is more than my truck/trailer payment.
     
  6. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,844
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0


    Again MN, you know NOTHING about our operation!!! I myself, by myself, can and have fully unloaded our trailers had p/w signed and back in the truck in less than 45 min. that IS TYPICAL for us.

    To reload, is about the same, maybe an hour if your SLOW. If you are going to keep telling me what I should do and not do I wish you would be better versed on our setup, otherwise, it is just painfully obvious to everyone here, that you just like to stir the pot.

    Again, I can't help it in your half-fast world if it takes YOU that long to load and unload your truck, just about everyone here seems to realize that we are a specialized carrier in a niche market, and do not operate like your typical van/reefer/flatbed company.

    Keep something else in mind, we NEVER have to tarp, we NEVER have to scale out, we NEVER have to slide a 5th wheel, we NEVER have to slide axles, we are NEVER over height, we are NEVER over width, we NEVER have to placard, we NEVER have to sit at a dock.

    I have NOT had a single driver UNDER 3200 miles since we went on E-logs, go ahead, tell me what else I'm doing wrong.

    Stan
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2013
  7. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,372
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    Then share exactly WHAT it is your company does instead of being so secretive.


    Based on the numbers you just gave instead of whats normal, it's about half of what i figured. That's still $8000 loss to a driver.


    And for the record, not all loads/unloads take 2 hours. But I know enough to use two hours for planning purposes. Industry typically starts detention at two hours wait.
     
  8. Colorato

    Colorato Road Train Member

    1,336
    865
    Feb 22, 2011
    0
    Biggest issue I ran into with running a recap was most places aren't open on Sundays and I don't feel comfortable STI dropping a large group of units. So I always had that big 0 that had to fall somewhere.

    If your guys could load Friday - Saturdays every week and get those 2 to 2 1/2 day runs consistently then they'd have no issues that I could see.

    I still log the PTI even tho the company never has said there view on flagging vs logging it.
     
    KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this.
  9. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,844
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0
    Half of 1200 is 600, and they are your numbers not mine, I have NEVER been secretive about what we do, hell there are pictures all over the car hauler thread of my equipment.

    We haul oversize vehicles, not oversize in the sense that they are over dims, but oversize in that they would not fit well on a conventional auto hauler.

    Most of my business is hauling buses, firetrucks, emergency equipment, cargo vans, limo's, etc. Our trailers are all custom built for this type of work, and I have built my customer and contact base over a period of 20 years.

    It isn't anything that someone could just jump into and duplicate as they could by buying a reefer/van and signing up to a load board.
     
  10. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,844
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0
    Yeah, C, most of our stuff I can drop any time, EVEN if I have a load of just cars/pickups coming back to Kansas I can always drop them at my terminal and then have them delivered by our local truck the next available day.

    Which leaves my OTR truck empty to reload at the yard and take off if they want. But I do understand what you are saying.
     
    Colorato Thanks this.
  11. Colorato

    Colorato Road Train Member

    1,336
    865
    Feb 22, 2011
    0
    Another issue I had was I can't load/unload in 1 hr or less. :biggrin_25523:
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.