Crazy securement you have seen?

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  1. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    You would love Gerdau Cambridge or Whitby then lol they don't like to get tuned in by a driver. Usually threats of being banned follow. My usual reply was that I have survived for a long time without them and l think I'll be ok. Luckily l had an understanding boss and it was just fill in work for us.
     
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  3. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    norb5150 Light Load Member

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    20170818_105216.jpg Help me out with this. These trailers are owned and pre loaded at the pickup. THEY SUCK!!! In my opinion there should be 2 chains across the bottom stack of beams and 2 across the middle stack of beams along with the five chains they have on the beams already that always need to have another 3 to 4 links grabbed. They close the binders by hand w no winch bar or any other assist to move the load from the cranes to the staging areas. Its damb near impossible to get a chain through this heap of scrap metal. Weight is roughly 47k. Any input or advice. I already know someone's gonna say don't haul it. Gotta make this move Monday morning.
     
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  5. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    Find a chunk of metal pipe conduit. Or similar.
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    I HATE pre-loaded trailers. That's what I carry now for fishing chain. On a broomstick.
    How long are the beams? You need 2 for the first 10 feet then 1 for every 10 feet after that.
     
  6. Tb0n3

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    If you pull the snap binders too hard you're likely to overstress them past their WLL. It's a fine line, and hard to get that perfect position.
     
  7. Dye Guardian

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    I've not heard that before.
     
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  8. johndeere4020

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    There's a reason you haven't.
     
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  9. ChaoSS

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    So first, tighten up the chains over the top. Second, get some more securement in there. You say near impossible, is it possible or is it not? Can you possibly get something really skinny through there that you could use to pull straps through? Nothing wrong with using straps there, just need to make sure to get some appropriate edge protection in there for the straps.

    49 CFR 393.118 - What are the rules for securing dressed lumber or similar building products?

    I'm not sure whether this section really, truly applies, but when hauling bundles of building materials, the spacers between layers shouldn't be taller than they are wide. Also spacers made up of multiple pieces should be nailed or screwed together so that they don't come apart.
     
  10. Tb0n3

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    I'm trying to find it, but I read a thread with a study of the amount of force placed on the chain from the binder. A single person could put 5000lbs of stress on a 4700lb 5/16th chain pretty easy with the amount of mechanical advantage you get with a snap binder and a cheater bar. That's 300lbs more than the WLL just in securement force.
     
  11. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    WLL is calculated from breaking strength. And WLL is a minimum rating.
    What happens if you use a binder with a 6600 or 8800 WLL on a chain with only 4700 lbs WLL? Is that bad too?
     
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