CSA 2010 disassemble it 1 inspection at a time

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by revelation1911, Mar 5, 2012.

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your personal prefrence for csa 2010

Poll closed Mar 25, 2012.
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    I don't care I'm a company driver

    11.1%
  2. I bend over full everytime they stop me

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    I try and avoid them

    19.4%
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    I would like to fight them but it seems useless

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    draw and quater ray lahood and scatter ashes to the wind

    50.0%
  1. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    I think your missing the point. You said it he didn't check everything that is required of a level two. If they claim to do a level two thats what they have to do! Find it in the regulation book where it states an officer can make up his own inpscetion format?? He picked you cause he seen a easy violation with no real work involved. He has violated your rights you was treated like a black man in birmingham by the police. He claimed to do a job he didn't he in esence lied and has caused you harm. Forget the fact the light was out.
    He didn't do what is required to get at for the light being out.
    Operating in bad faith under the color of law enforcement to create statistics for goals he has to meet. Make them work for it.
    Think of how many less inspections they would be able to do if they had to do them properly. I'm a trained diesel mechanic I know a real one when I see one. Putting aside the fact that I have met several that were personable none has ever done their job properly.

     
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    Yup, the truth of CSA 2010 is coming out.

    Yes, it is extremely difficult to get inspection points removed... Thank goodness, there are still judges that understand due process of the law:

    Inspection points were received by a driver in Illinois. This driver retained an attorney and went to court in the issuing state(IL). The attorney explained to the judge that these points could not be contested for their validity in a court of law... Nor was there any issued violation of the law... only a warning with an inspecton.

    The judge was floored and asked several question... The drivers attorney answered them all. The judge then issued an order for the points to be removed (yup a court order) with extreme prejudice.

    Were the points removed? Nope... Three months later they were still there.

    New court date was set, and the attorney presented this to the judge... The judge was extremely POed... He(the Judge) ended up calling a personal friend(a Federal Judge) in on the matter and the points were finally removed.

    So is CSA 2010 even legal? Certainly not in this Illinois judges eyes.

    So what was the cost to this IL semi-retired driver? The whole court thing made his wallet about $3800 lighter... he did it because he felt it was unlawful on principle and was correct... at least in this judges interpretation of the law.

    Can most drivers afford to do this? Nope

    Think LEO's know this? Yup
     
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    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    This what I have said the whole time you have no rights to due process under this system. I have been told you don't understand the system, yes I do.
    When an officer said I can write you a ticket but i'm doing you a favor I said write me the ticket. The way you stop it is where it starts with these trurd sucking police. Make them do the proper inspections or file complaints on them at the time it's happening. Roadside complaints thats what will get their attention. I find it hard to beleive OOIDA hasn't challenged this yet?
     
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    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Yeah, the problem IS or in the case of my example, Judges don't even know about this points system or how it bypasses due process of the law. Apparently, this judge couldn't believe what the attorney was telling him... Hence his ruling(dismisal of points with extreme prejudice)

    Then, this didn't even remove the points.

    Moreover, LEO's should NEVER have access to previous inspection information... it has no purpose under the law. A new inspection/stop should be done on the merit of that stop alone. Legal discovery of pervious stops should only pretain to legal court action.

    Again, LEO's will disagree with this, and they will give all sorts of reasons. Allbeit, none of them legal...
     
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    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    I'm glad to see theirs others who see things clearly.
    I was laughed at by an AAG when i said near the same thing.
    I think reports generated in bad faith should be invalidated immediately
    using fruit of the posionous tree doctorine, thye said it didn't matter since it wasn't criminal. I said their conduct was criminal and still is.

     
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    Cletus29 Bobtail Member

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    Finally a thread for all those who hate the establishment. Maybe we should change the name of this thread.:biggrin_25525:

    I don't like the rules all the time, but without rules do you realize what would be on the road with us and our families? I for one, don't want some fly by night outfit doing watever they want to driving junk beside me. I see enough crap in a truck stop parking lot.
     
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    I wish it was like it was yers ago. Do what you wnated to do. rember my pappy teling me bout thiose days.
     
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    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    This system isn't meant for safety it's all about control and money.
    It's designed where you have no rights to challenge or remove anything.
    It's only purpose is to make us look unsafe so they can try and regulate us more. You put forth that you are a goverenment troll.
    Maybe you should go by the username "defeatus"
     
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    It was a joke. You know a "funny". I get a kick out of reading your posts. Actually you have got me thinking a lot lately. Never really thought to much about it, because I have only had a few tickets ever. But the more I think about it, I need to get better educated about it.
     
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    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    I was the same a few years back, lots of people wonder through life
    half asleep. Once you wake up you see things totaly different.
    I think you should run legal, but htese cmv police running over me isn't going to happen. What changed my thinking when the acsehole in ohio dale w
    threw my logbook at me and threatened me, it has been on ever since.