CSA 2010 why it needs ending

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by revelation1911, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    The officer does not respond to the DataQ's. His supervisor's and agency deal with them.


    Again if one lug nut breaks yeah it get's written up. No big deal until every time you get stopped for inspection you have a lug gone, a light out, a flat tire, no flares(triangles), bad registration, .........

    See that is the point of CSA. One warning is no big deal. A warning every time you get stopped is and will raise your number in your peer group. Your looking to short sighted. This isn't about one inspection, those can and will be dealt with as they happen. This is about your over all record.
     
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  3. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Not according to Scalemaster.

    So, even if the agency gets involved with the supervisor, they still must confer with the citation issuing officer. Again, this is the use of LEO to settle disputes without due process of the law.

    It is biased... period
     
  4. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    How do you come by flawed. Does this color suit you better , I use them for differentiating who's typing.

    If it's capped which I read why does it even show 57 points??
    it's there for a reason.

    Now when a broker looks do you think he sees the little foot note stating points are capped at 30 or the BIG OLE 57 points right there on the line?? Do you think the brokers even take the time to really understand any of this? You see 57, piss on the footnotes let them put the 30 there and it will be real easy for anyone to see.





    I never look to cause situations, just react to those that are presented. I can tell you read part of the transcript. You missed the main fact the officer lied to start with and admited he never done work he claimed. The pillow was never in passegner seat it was covered up in back under a jacket and since when does it mean I was sleeping in my truck just cayse i had a pillow? I never stated that till that day. As to changing manufacturers plates I did a altered chassis
    certifacation perfectly legal. It's a Bright flouresent orange decal placed on doors leading edge so it's first thing you should notice. Theres a picture of it in the case file look for yoiurself. I don't look for problems but when this guy threatened me it was on and I just knew how to win. Plus I was wanting some case law to back me up for potential problems in future. I proved if they claim to do a inpsection they have to do it properly or it's falsified and I proved I could legally sleep on my truck with no sleeper. This officer was/is a
    real acsehole. I have over 1600 inspections he done. I can send you a copy and you call some of the people he done badly like leaving a 71 yo man on side of read and countkess people he threatened like me. Screw him he got off light. If i would have been a little more on my game he wouldn't have a job now and would have been arrested. He got just what he needed. I suspect you suffer from out of touch with how the world really goes.

    I live the lifestyle I want so I must being do my job. I called in a truck sling bown out tires on the road no one ever checked it out. Called the guys company there were just as useless and I'm talking about aligators not little pieces. I beg to differ the system is broken and has been for a very long time. example csa was the cure for safetsat and it was the cure for the one before and on and on. What BS you really have to live in fantasy land to beleive it is working? Oh it's working for them for the next cure to this system that isn't worth piss. So believe your daydream.
     
  5. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    One inspection with a violation sets you up for the next. Don't you remember
    the famous dieselbear sstating he ran MC#'s to decide if to red light you, if that isn't profiling nothing is and as told by a memebr of the choosen ones.
    Now come up with some glourious line about thats what the system is for?
    Ok it's for profiling, isn't that agianst the law? You refuse to see the forrest for the trees.
     
  6. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Yeah you got through on a loop hole. And no where in that decision that I can find is any statement or decision or opinion about the Officers inspection. In fact the hearing Officer specifically told you to stick to the point of your ticket instead of if certain laws were valid.

    At least you admit to lying. I'm curious if you feel you should be held for perjury. See youttook an oath that day and flat out lied. I could tell it in the transcript and the Officer apparently could tell that day. Now he could not prove it so should not have written the citation or placed you OOS. However his instinct was correct you were circumventing HOS regs claiming you relieved yourself of duty. I wonder whom was responsible for that load then. Like I said you found a loophole which I suspect will be closed when they adress Personal Conveyance. To make it simple they should just make putting numbers on a vehicle the deciding factor.


    Yes you do create situations and you try to play to a crowd. You purposely lowered the GVRW of your vehicle. I have no proof but I would bet the pillow and blanket were in plain sight(By you testimony of his eyes going wide as soon as he opened the door. He had to have seen something then huh?) I would even wager your answer when he asked where you slept you said I was Off Duty in my truck.Can I prove that? Nope. But I stand by my bet based off your testimony and your attitude towards LEO's in general. You say that guy was an #// yet here you claim they all are.

    It is quite obvious when you a "veteran" of the industry ask the hearing officer about feeling scared far from home confronted by an officer. If the big bad boogey man scares you when your far from home maybe a career where you can stay there at the house? I mean Rhett Butler wasn't that big of a ham. Poor little ol picked on truck driver my #//.

    Your lucky the OPUC rep was so poor at his jobl He missed your perjury, he let you slide bringing up irrelevant tirades, he failed to even cross examine you in any meaningful capacity. Luckily for you they did not want to make a case of it. A simple subpeona for your friend in Va, and the shipping clerk hell Perjury, obstruction, tampering..........

    You could have had lots of time to work on that law degree on the states dime.
     
  7. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    You keep trying to make I done something wrong when I followed their rules. You really have your tuner set wrong, unloosen your tin foil.
    I would venture a guess you haven't never heard of the "unclean hands doctrine" or "fruit of the poisinous tree doctrine"? Once I proved form the begining that the inspection was falseified The violation should have been dismissed as ill gotten goods. There was over a years worth of hearings and motions and phone confrences held not recorded. The whole thing should have been Inadmissable. I thnk you're mad I won?
    I never lied I never said anything the day at the scalehouse. when he asked for motel receipts I told him I didn't have to have them which is correct.
    He went into a lunatic frenzy never had time to say much after that. All that turd seen was I had a brand new MC number and he thought he'd found his victim of the day. I guess he got fooled didn't he? I got his employee file later
    and he got a not so good review after we crossed paths. did I mention many years ago I worked for a investigator that did contract work for agencies??
    As much as you try to put words out I didn't say or actions I didn't do, I learned to remain SILENT for the most part when dealing with police long ago
    all my post here will relfect this. Since it's my authority I can releive myself of duty it's in the rules too. As to numbers my truck has no number.


    Here you go trying to make things up that didn't happen. First I legally lowered my GVW, if the turd was doing his job and not chasing fantasies he would have seen that big orange decal. You present yourself as a person with reasonable inteligence so let me pose a question? Once it was proven the officer lied about doing the inspection why would you beleive anything he said? That shows something is wrong with your thought process, that you'd believe a proven liar. I never really thought of playing to crowds I prefer things being handled queitly they chose the way it went down. But looking back now and the last time I was in a court room it does somewhat fufill my narsistic needs. Lets see my opinion of police in general??
    Have you ever done any independent work for any of them?? You would probally think beating hadncuffed prisoners is ok? How about planting drugs on innocent people? I've seen enough years ago not to like them the rest of my life.

    You mean I shoudn't have felt threatened by what appeared to be a deranged officer?
    I'll have to remember that.
    The opuc lawyer was one of the attorney generals office better Cmv lawyers lindgreen was his name. There never was no perjury need to quit making up things. There was no mention of a freind in va. and my time from loading two days before matched. How is irrelavant when it was proved months before the whole thing was legally wrong? I have since learned what to do in a case like that. I had sued [eople before but never a state agency before.
    They couldn't make a case I was legally right the the whole time. As to my knowledge I'm the only one that has ever won a case against that AAG. Look up some more opuc case you'll see lindgreen never lost before.
    I think your mad cause I won and it don't fit your agenda of how great the police and csa are? OR you could be the lawyer I helped get disbarred back in the day?
    I'm considering taking a pre law course if I can find a good one online.
     
  8. Wiseguywireless

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    You and I both know that not all officers see it your way. I was pulled over for going over 55 mph I was behind the truck that the officer clocked. He admitted to me that he did not clock me but pulled me over because it was unsafe to go around me to pull over the other driver because of heavy oncoming traffic. I was given a warning. Just before CSA. then came CSA and it shows up and I can't contest it. now I look at my CSA score and it is no longer there. ??????? I had a officer in Colorado inspect a new rig I was delivering to a private owner. this was like 5 years ago. the officer wrote me up for not having my Triangles and Fire ext. out of the sealed box that they were in. Yes I had them in the rig. but it was new and I was leaving it up to the owner to open the box. He also wrote me up for a cracked air line and put me OOS. The mech. came to put a new line on and I showed him just as I showed the officer that it was the NEW overspray of paint that was cracked NOT the line. Didn't matter. I made the mech. leave me the "damaged" part so it could be reinstalled as part of the new truck! he didn't want to even do that, but I explained that it was NOT his property!.... There are MANY officers out there who are below the standards just as there are many drivers who are too! and as we know now. Even Secret Service! Just because you pride yourself in being a good cop, don't make the other one good. I know. Many of my friends and some family are LEOs.

     
  9. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    It's always easier to remember the turds cause they stink ,anything else goes by unnoticed. Maybe we can match up the below standard folks.
    the funnt thing is below standard ones generate the most revenue.
     
  10. Tazz

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    It is all to easy to see through your bs. I look forward to watching your petulent tirades as you learn that you got away with one by finding a loop hole. It is a loop hole so you can circumvent the regulations others follow.

    See you say you relieved yourself of responsibility. So if someone started to unstrap the load?Drive off with it? If it caught fire? Why you would do something then wouldn't you? Why? Because you were responsible for the load Huh?


    Your quite wrong about any anger. You should have one by the letter of the law not some convipoluted evidence string. He could not prove your duplicity nor can I. Fortunately for people like you we wish to defend the innocent so let some guilty go.

    All you play acting is as tired as that book of fables. It is equally easy to see why you have the mental issues you do. Look at your own posts. Everyone is a turd or an ayce(as you put it), or a nazi, ........ Huh While I find most in this world to be rather dim, and frankly have more four legged friends than two legged ( simply because they are far smarter and honest than most two legged animals)I don't refer to 99% of the people I meet in those terms.



    Oh well I'm done with ya.
     
  11. revelation1911

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    You started this when you asked me to post the case number. How can I be sircumventing rules when I followed the ones in the BOOK? You are allowed to lod=g off duty during breaks and I met all the requirements for that.
    Theres a difference between financial and physical responsibilty. No one was going to steal the load the truck had trailer blocked in though it was unhooked. If it had caught fire or something I would have called 911 and you can do that off duty. I don't think steel would have burned long?
    The new HOS have corrected that problem you can log off duty in a parked cmv all you want. You lead me to think that you have paid fines before you wish you coould've or would've fought? So anyone who stands up is bad in your view?


    I guess four legged freinds are better to you cause they can't disagree and have do as you tell them or they won't get feed. as for the turds, nazi's and ayse's thats how I refer to most law enforcement and goverenment officials as thats about the way I see them for reason's dating back to 1988.
    Now there are a few good ones but you have to find out who they are first.
    You mr. tazz seem to have issues with truck drivers and carriers you have claimed more than once that over 30% need to be shutdown and put off the road? did a bad carrier do something to you?

    Since you appear to have limited knowledge of how the system works let me explain it for you real simple.
    1 you are written a violation or citattion this is the grease that keeps the fmsca wheels rolling without it there would be no need for them.
    2 The fines are normally lower than what a lawyer will charge you. Lawyers don't like fooling with truck drivers unless it's suing them and their insurance carrier
    3.You can represent yourself it's called pro se. The supreme court ruled years ago all filings must be attempted to work by the courts regardless of spelling, grammar and legal correctness. Thsi is the only really good thing thats happened for pre se's I can think of. But still going pro se is hard as lawyers think of themselves as some type of elite group in general and try and block
    discovery and deny actions that pratacing lawyers always get.
    4 If it weren't for the few who do fight the system you'd see it even worse
    5 The system is designed only to take money in a grow bigger.

    You fail to see the big picture cause you have somehow formed in your thoughts I have beaten the systemn and it rellay bother you.
    The only question you should have had was I well rested and ready for duty?? Yes I was.


     
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