CSA and inspections

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by jimjam38, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Wrong. Company does not get points and driver does not get points. Same scenario happened with me. Verbal speed warning with level II.

    2 months later, Company checked theirs and mine. Clean inspection noted but no points were resultant from it.

    Speeding was noted as reason for stop/inspection. But no mention of 5 over, just that it was speeding. This was Oregon. Maybe other states are different but I doubt it since we're talking about a federal program.
     
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  3. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    Yeah well the way I see it is a warning still counts as a violation, not the other way around.

    Semi truck professional drivers account for 2.4 percent of all accidents on US roads and around 80% of those are the FAULT of the passenger car.

    CSA NEEDS A REFORM NOW !
     
  4. 6wheeler

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    You know how all the non-trucking experts know better than anyone. Its like control tower telling the pilot how to fly the airplain
     
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  5. shogun

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    He said it was listed on the inspection report for speeding which is why I responded. If it's listed on the inspection as a warning and doesn't count against his CSA, that's news to me and I'm happy for him.Maybe the difference is yours was verbal? Maybe I'm wrong, just going by what I found.

    Ok I thought about it. Certain states like mine don't need a reason to perform a DOT inspection so they wouldn't list speeding unless it was a violation. The officer was probably noting it to cover his probable cause, and in this case it wouldn't count for points. I stand corrected.
     
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  6. MACK E-6

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    Yes sir. I don’t know about the company, but one point to the driver just for the inspection alone even if nothing is found.

    I discovered this years back when our company would give the drivers printouts of their scores. I went years with nothing but one roadside inspection, and came to find out that’s where the one point came from.
     
  7. dibstr

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    If the company gave your “score”, they created it not CSA. CSA does not rate drivers.
     
  8. MACK E-6

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    Maybe not now, but somebody certainly at least used to.
     
  9. dibstr

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    Nope, CSA has never rated drivers. That’s a myth that many including some companies have perpetuated.

    https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/CSA_Dispatch_042011.pdf read Hot Topics With Industry in the lower right corner. This from 2011.

    New Online Resource Center: “ We need yourhelp to communicate the following facts to carriers anddrivers to help set the record straight!•CSA does not rate drivers or issue a compositedriver or carrier “score.” Carriers or private vendorsmay issue “scorecards,” but FMCSA does not issueor endorse these.•CSA does not directly impact a driver’s CDL.”

    https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/DriverInfoforCarriers.pdf

    More recent read the upper right, last sentence.

    “It is important to clarify that CSA does not rate individual CMV drivers.”

    Unless there is a carrier intervention individual drivers aren’t looked at under CSA.
     
  10. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The csa does not rate drivers, but the violations they get are shown on their PSP reports. Some companies use PSP reports as part of their new hire vetting process.
     
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