CSA and inspections

First of all, if it is listed on an inspection report - that IS a violation/warning.
Second, not all violations affect the CSA score. Size, weight and registration, for example, do not have CSA points.
Third, you can ALWAYS fight a warning. That is what the Data Q system is for.

 

Never even heard of data Q until that post. Always thought you couldnt fight a warning also. Will have to read up on this.

 

Reason being that the feds do not recognize nor record in records a warning on an inspection. If the state noted a violation as a warning on an inspection the feds note the violation regardless of whether the inspector noted a warning. In short a warning for a violation is a violation period end of sentence. As Scalemaster noted you can Data Q the violation on the inspection even if a warning is shown because the violation still existed regardless of how the inspector chose to handle it. To successfully Data Q you generally must show proof that the violation did not exist, was recorded in error, or listed multiple times. If one receives a warning ticket, it means nothing don’t worry about it.

 

Ok, here was the situation I was in (this is 4+ years ago now). I routinely ran from Mpls to Ft, Wayne, In. There was a state trooper that had his camping spot at the light on US30 in Etna Green (between Plymouth and Warsaw). He was visible from at least a half mile, wasnt like he was hiding. The speed limit drops from 60 to 50 about a quarter mile from the light, and goes back to 60 about a quarter mile past it.

I was coming up on the light (it was red and several cars stopped), in the right lane and down to around 15mph I guess when the light turned green and traffic started moving. I couldnt have been doing more than 30 going through the intersection. The A Hole pulls me over and gives me a warning for speed, and another because I didnt have my BOL on the log (elogs) for that day (I had been driving all night, that was the first time I stopped that day). In other words, 2 BS warnings. The next week I come through there again, and same deal. Stops me and 2 BS warnings.

Im leased to Landstar. 5 warnings in a year and they will pull your lease. I dont know if this guy was targeting Landstar directly or just doing it to everyone, but for the next few months I avoided US30.

I havent gotten a ticket for anything in 20 years, but this A Hole... And nothing I could do about it, because it was a "warning". Landstar told me to tell him "I dont accept written warnings, give me a verbal or a ticket". I dont know if that would have worked or not, but thats what the lady in the logs dept told me to do.

 

It's kinda sad even now a scale master doesn't know the difference between a violation and a warning.

 

"Landstar told me to tell him "I dont accept written warnings, give me a verbal or a ticket""

That's funny.

 

As long as drivers can tell inspectors how to do his/her job and to give them what they want can I have a fudge bar please.

 

Please explain it to him. Then we will all know also.

 

There is no such thing as a warning in regards to a CVSA inspection form. A violation is just that. A violation. Just because there is no citation with it doesn't mean the driver and company doesn't get in trouble, which is what a warning implies.

 

Yep, a violation is a violation regardless of whether it’s shown on inspection as a warning. Just because some believe a warning on an inspection doesn’t mean it implies anything. Look at it this way a warning by a state inspector on an inspection is a violation without a fine, no warning shown on a violation on an inspection is a violation with a fine. Both carry CSA (Sometimes DMS) and PSP implications and protections. I appreciate your input, thank you.