Cummins x15 knock

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  1. Mercer6890

    Mercer6890 Bobtail Member

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    Good Morning all
    I have a 2019 Kenworth T800 with a Cummins X15. The engine has a knock when under load at about 1400 to 1500 rpms. To me it’s sounds like a fuel knock from a bad injector. Put it in the kenworth dealership shop they suggested an overhead and changed out DPF sensors, and the knock is still there. My question is how do I identify which cylinder has the knock because I’m sure it’s a fuel related knock only the mechanics at this shop can’t figure it out.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Cylinder cutout will isolate it to cylinder, but doesn't necessarily mean it's a fuel knock.

    Isolate the cylinder, then look for valve train/jake issues first. If you find nothing and pull the injector, check what you can of the cylinder walls and piston before throwing an injector in
     
  4. Mercer6890

    Mercer6890 Bobtail Member

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    Ok thanks, an overhead has been run, I’ll talk with the mechanic shortly to see what checks he’s performed. would be prudent to perform a compression check?
     
  5. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    It couldn't hurt, but wouldn't be my main goal. What I described should lead to a diagnosis. If it's a knock, they should have isolated the cylinder first. Sounds like they,'re going in blind.

    Some others here may have more specific X15 info

    @Goodysnap?
     
  6. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Cut out is the only way to pinpoint a hole to narrow down. From there swap injectors hole to hole.There is no published compression test for the engine.

    Most knocks or noises can be somewhat misinterpreted. The engine is somewhat noisy to begin with. Some of the gear train noises sound like a bag rocks just setting at a stop light.

    What’s really disappointing is to tear it down and find nothing. Sometimes it’s just better to run it until it gets worse or to failure. That being said, most bottom end issues are on 5 or 6. Broken rings pistons etc.
     
  7. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I always wondered if that bag of rocks sound was normal. The 2350 isx seemed to be the worst with that
     
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  8. little cat 500

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    2350 sound like crap from new
     
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  9. ClonkeyDonkeyPhD

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    Inspect your vibration damper at the front of the engine for for signs of seperation between the inner and outer pieces. It's nonserviceable and can only be replaced. I had 1 engine in the shop 2 years ago that I couldn't find the knock. It definitely had one when test drove. I ran overhead after cold-soak, inspected each cylinder with cut-out test. Finally decided to look externally and I removed the belt and inspected front auxilary and engine components. PFP was the Vibration Damper; the rubber isolator deteriated and caused the vibration at mid-ranged RPM's.
     
  10. Mercer6890

    Mercer6890 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks all gives me some direction, cylinder cutout not showing anything engine actually idles smooth and sounds quite normal even when rpm’s increased but hook a trailer up and load the engine at 1400 rpm’s it starts knocking I’d hate to run till failure it’s a strong and very efficient engine. I’ll pass on the advice maybe they’ll find it soon.
    Thanks again folks
     
  11. Diesel Dave

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    Throw a gallon of Lucas fuel and see what it does. Or some 2 stroke oil.
     
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