Group asks FMCSA to specify a time or distance limit in personal conveyance guidance
An uptick in log tickets because of misuse so they want time and distance limits on it.
CVSA wants FMCSA to limit personal conveyance
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Long FLD, Apr 7, 2022.
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It never ends...I'd like to follow around sometime someone who works at these bureaus. Just to see what they do all day, 40 hours a week.
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I stay out for three months at a time. Do you think I use PC alot? You betcha I do. I don't sit at the terminal on my 34's.
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If people would read the guidance like it's written instead of reading what they want into it that's not there a time limit isn't needed.
Problem is people are abusing it because they read what isn't there because they care more about money than safety.bzinger, bryan21384, WildTiger1990 and 3 others Thank this. -
Now the intentions of the guidance are fairly clear, but the language is specific, and gives one an out. Number 3 of the non- acceptable PC is leaving after delivering, but the end of the paragraph says "at the direction of the motor carrier". Might one argue "I went home at my own direction, against the carrier's wishes"?Nostalgic, ProfessionalNoticer, Dave_in_AZ and 2 others Thank this. -
Time and distance limits set by the FMCSA would eliminate DOT inspectors using their "discretion".
I will never get over being put out of service for using too much PC. I asked the inspector how much I was allowed and he wouldn't answer. Just said "You use it too much, more than what other drivers use" and wasn't interested in any further clarification.
For the record, my company allows 3hrs per day and I have never even come close to that.Dave_in_AZ, Coffey, TheLoadOut and 3 others Thank this. -
What did you get a ticket for? False logs?
The FMCSA will “fix” this with hard limits. The ELD companies will update their product. Then they will realize that people who use PC operating under exemptions will just unplug their ELD while exempt. Then the government will say you shouldn’t unplug your ELD. Then the ELD companies will have to make a tab on the screen for when you’re exempt. -
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I found it. It's in the questions and answer guidance. Explicitly prohibited
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Nostalgic, Oxbow, RockinChair and 5 others Thank this.
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Idiots through the years have asked for the fmcsa to comment on PC, which most of us knew this would lead to confusion and eventually a hard regulation about it, so they asked for it and will get it.
wis bang, Boondock, Bean Jr. and 1 other person Thank this.
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