Davco filter (clear) housing empty overnight. No FUEL !

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  1. MercerDriver

    MercerDriver Light Load Member

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    This problem is getting worse.

    Let the truck sit overnight and the Davco filter is empty of fuel. Draining all to tank
    I took out the check valve at intake side of the filter housing, looks clean, spring intact, ball looks round.

    Read it might be the valve in back of head, but that doesn't make sense in my case since fuel would still be in the filter even if that head check valve was bad, correct ? The check valve at filter would prevent prime from going out, right ?

    What else can it be ?
     
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  3. cjb logistics

    cjb logistics Heavy Load Member

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    Wheres your fuel return to? Do you have a line to tank with a back pressure valve off fuel system, could be it has a bad sealing surface.
    Check on your devco, is it vertical or horizontal, ball could be slightly off seat; or the seat could be out of round.
    Plug the hole on inlet side of devco after you shut down for the night and see if problem still exist. Put a ball valve in for ease; then it could just stay in system. Brass what 5/6 bucks at hardware store.
     
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  4. MercerDriver

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    Thanks for quick reply. The filter housing is vertical. That's a good idea to block off the inlet of the Devco housing. I'll try it. So even if the ball and spring look good, doesn't mean it seals, correct?
    Also, by ball valve, do you mean put a manual valve just before the Devco housing and shut it off by hand when parking overnight? That's also a good idea.

    Do you think the cylinder head check valve is not the issue then or can that also cause the fuel system to completely drain into the tanks?
     
  5. cjb logistics

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    Filter vertical yes, how about check valve. Even a spring loaded ball that sits horizontally can seep down overnight if components are out of round; even the dart types can wear on one side.
    Yes ball valve inlet side of filter, good isolation point, while your isolating what the cause is. Remember to open in the morning:)
    Process of elimination now. Slight injector leak, fuel system check, devco,etc...just a little air and everything high runs south to tanks
     
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  6. MercerDriver

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    Yes, the Devco check valve is horizontal also. Plastic ball with a very weak spring (probably should be weak).
    I guess I'm just confused how the whole system can drain out if the head is higher than the filter and tanks. I'd think the Devco filter check valve would stop the backflow.
     
  7. cjb logistics

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    Weak spring will not keep ball tight on sealing surface, filter housing will siphon back. Weak spring in return line relief valve to top of tanks would make one big loop. All you need to drain fluid to the lowest point is a vacuum break somewhere.
    all depends on the type of set up you have.
    Fill a clear hose up with water, put one end in a bucket of water, raise the other end above you head. With your tumb over end above your head, hose will not drain, give it a little air and out the fluid goes. This is how your diesel is draining back. #### runs down hill.
     
  8. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    The spring is not supposed to be strong ,suction pulls the ball off the seat. Take off the inlet hose and fill the bowl to the top with the cap off. If it leaks out the inlet the ball seat is bad and fuel is draining back to the tank. The only other option would be an external leak.
     
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  9. MercerDriver

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    That's what I thought. The check valve on the Devco is the lowest point before the tanks. It should prevent ANY backflow on the fuel intake side , correct?
     
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    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Yes, correct.
     
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  11. MercerDriver

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    So pulled off the intake hose to the filter today. Immediately saw big air bubbles come up in filter housing and in about 30 mins, the Devco was dry. Is the vacuum in the fuel lines really that strong to pull fuel UP to the head, through the head, and back down INTO the tanks? WOW
     
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