Daylight Savings Time and DOT Logbook

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bugsntiger, Oct 27, 2008.

  1. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    And even with paper you wouldn't show that hour. You would flag it as CondoCruiser noted. If you show that hour, you're going to have a discrepancy that'll lead to a violation. Because you would have shown a shut down time of a hour too late (meaning you drove 12 hours).

    Here's a example provided you do a full drive shift starting at midnight:

    Under normal circumstances, you would run out of drive time at 11am. With the end of DST, you would run out of drive time at 10am. If you log line 3 'till 11am, you're going to show 12 hours of driving, which is a violation. You shut down at 10am, and flag that lost hour. As I said, DST does NOT affect your HOS. You still have 11 hours of drive time and no more.
     
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    i draw a line to show what i did from 00:00-02:00 and a line just above it to show 01;00 (after time change) to 23:59, flag 01:00-02:00 TIME CHANGE, total hours for the day 25

    in the spring i run a line from 00:00-02:00, blank from 02:00-03:00 flag time change and restart the line at 03:00 total hours 23
     
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    and i WAS talking about E-LOGS not doing it right not paper logs
     
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    That's too much work for me.
     
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    And I'm telling you that e-logs are correct. Just because you've been doing it one way on paper doesn't mean it's correct, and it doesn't mean other ways arent correct. Showing 25 hours in a day is too much work. All you need to do is flag that hour, which is what the EOBR does.
     
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    wten the fall time changes on THAT day their is 25 hr's not the 24 that e-logs show and in the spring time change on that day their is ONLY 23 hr's not the 24 that e-logs show

    that also makes the recap wrong so for 16 days a year e-logs are wrong
     
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    just draw 2 lines in the 2-3 AM box for the fall back, and skip the line in the 2-3 AM box for spring ahead
     
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    As I said, DST does not affect HOS. The hour is not lost, and it is not gained back.
     
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    how con NOT SHOWING ALL HOURS BE CURRECT..??
    the dot i show it to like it
    showing 25 hr's on a day that has 25 hr's is too much work...??
     
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    1) Where did I say don't show all hours? I said to FLAG the hour that got set back to show 11 hours of driving.

    2) That doesn't mean other ways aren't correct, as I already stated.

    3) Yes, because you're doing more with your logs than you need to.

    4) You can continue doing it your way all you want. I don't care. Don't say e-logs are wrong, because they aren't. If they were wrong, 1,000s of trucks would be in violation every time DST changes.