really DDEC-II may be fixed... but... now we have many DDEC-III and IV on JYs for low cost and really it is easier to upfrade now
DDEC II vs DDEC III
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by See Are125, Nov 11, 2013.
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DDEC-III and IV share sensors and wiring, DDEC-II wiring differs a bit.
Check it out
http://www.dmbruss.com/images/Schematics/DDEC/92_Engine_Wiring_Schematics.pdfSee Are125 Thanks this. -
Since Detroit no longer supports DDEC II, if it's been recently rebuilt it should be a DDEC III or IV, right? Also, the dealer isn't sure, how would I know the difference by looking at it? Any part or serial numbers to look for?
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Ok, I gonna try to clear things.
Old DDEC-II was based on parallel EPROM (one programmable, other UV erasable), so in/out ports were "hard", cant be changed.
Later DDEC-III got FLASH and EPROM memory and it is more flexible, so truck makers got ability to do some vehicle specific things.
DDEC-IV is improved DDEC-III. This unit got CAN (J1922) and it can communicate with other units, like autoshift transmissions, ABS/ASR units (torq limit for traction control).
Later unused ports were used for EGR and Delta sensor. Aniway in early 2000-s DDEC-IV was old design (no J1939 support, lack of ports (PWM out for Vistronic fan clutch), low reliability (internal CMOS Li Battery leak, internal corrosion, cover problems), and DDEC-V was introduced.
Other step was European Temic ECM for MBE engines. This ECM was the first controlled by CAN only from VCI unit in cab (also calld FMR/FR on MB trucks and ADM on non MB trucks).
Later when detroit switched to MCM they use cab unit to control MCM and no so many wires of engine interfaceSee Are125 Thanks this. -
Hello. I want to install a ddec2 in place of a ddec3 in a1995 Pete. I would like to run the ddwc2 ecm as it is a sweet running low mile engine. Does anyone know what mods or changes I will need to make to the vehicle wiring harness? Any and all info appreciated.
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