Dead end turnaround practice with our Instructor

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Nahbrown, Mar 24, 2023.

  1. PaulMinternational

    PaulMinternational Heavy Load Member

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    Having seen the end result I would be afraid to ask what some trainers are doing? Myself I was more like your describing here and yes he would most likely find lots of volunteers to help.
     
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  3. DixonM

    DixonM Light Load Member

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    Your trainer is setting you and your wife up for Success. This is the type of training that comes from experience be thankful you found a good trainer.
     
  4. Stone Express

    Stone Express Medium Load Member

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    Next time, hug that inside with the trailer wheels immediately. Looks like she had another 3 feet or so to keep it left.
    (That will help get the tractor away from the curb)

    Once there is enough room to clear the tractor and the curb, let the trailer drift to the right so as to leave room for the trailer swing coming out. That should mitigate any pull ups.
     
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  5. 4wayflashers

    4wayflashers Heavy Load Member

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    More like “nearly perfect conditions” for getting turned around. So it’s really not even a jam, is it?

    As far as training a new student by throwing unexpected obstacles, yeah thats not a bad thing. Just dont think making wrong turns wont ever leave you royally screwed and 100% need a LEO to handle traffic so you can safely back out.

    Emphasis on calling a LEO being the right move in certain situations.

    Prevent this by checking satellite view and writing down final mile directions. 99% of bad situations I’ve been in was because I passed the truck entrance at the shipper/receiver.
     
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  6. PaulMinternational

    PaulMinternational Heavy Load Member

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    This is why I ask he suggest less room. I have seen some folks stuck in some really tight spots over the years.
     
  7. 4wayflashers

    4wayflashers Heavy Load Member

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    Yeah, you really cant prepare for every possible scenario. Even if you tried, the student is sitting there with an instructor, so they know they aren’t completely screwed. Which is what leads drivers to make matters worse. Id worry that having such an easily resolved situation could make many students feel getting jammed up on a dead end isn’t something that can lead to major problems.

    Maybe do the dead end scenario at 07:05 on a Monday while their phone wont stop ringing and people are running late for work and long winding road lined with parked cars in the rain and a set of train tracks to back over and they have to pee, really bad and their 14 has 12 minutes remaining.

    Point is. Even in the OPs ‘nearly perfect conditions’ scenario, it’s not really safe to do that on a public road without someone stopping traffic.
     
  8. Opus

    Opus Road Train Member

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    As @4wayflashers mentioned, never be afraid to call LEO if you're in a tight.....they'll help you. They helped me twice. Once when I got on a low bridge road in Connecticut or Massachusetts. They came, got me backed down the street and gave me an escort to my destination.
    Second time, I pulled into a factory that had changed its in and out gates. The driveway was just exactly long enough for a tractor and trailer and the gate was locked up. The only way out was to back into traffic. Called the cops and the hottest looking cop I ever saw came out to get me out.

    Kinda goes back to what I was saying about stopping. If you don't know what to do, STOP and give yourself a chance to figure it out. That's what I did in both instances.
     
  9. Val_Caldera

    Val_Caldera Road Train Member

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    Regarding post # 9 (I hear the Beatles singing "Number 9, Number 9.........")

    Anyways,
    "We’re not allowed to waive them to go ahead because then we responsible if they do something stupid, I guess that makes sense."
    - - - -
    I had waived LOTS of Vehicles to turn or DO SOMETHING to get outta MY WAY get OFF MY ROAD, as well with Air Horn.
    NEVER HAD 1 PROBLEM but did get some, normal trucking activity, 1 finger salutes.

    "I have more videos of the roads we’ve been driving, but I don’t want to spam the board anymore than I already have".

    I'm still looking for the spam, spam, spam, spam, spam and eggs.
    Monty Pythons Flying Zircus.

    I ain't ever seen a Dead-end with a "EXIT, Stage Left".
    Shoulda put the Trailer tandems (if large slots) in 15th hole for REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.
    I wooda set her up by being almost upon the left side curb. Would have given more room for the "exit" usage.

    Trailer taillights appear a bit dark (covert effect), yet 4 ways clearly strobing.
    CHEERS!!
     
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  10. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    That’s good Training. I often have to do the 2 step process. Getting another bite at it, That’ll come in handy in tight spots like backing in off a narrow 2 lane service drive for instance. Anytime pull-up space is limited. It’s the only way with a long wheelbase. Hardest part is following it around, without jacking it too much. If you do, or realize you’re going to run out of room, Switch from following the trailer to jacking it, then pulling up. Positioning it as many times as needed. Each time taking another bite out of it. Eventually you’ll get it. Sometimes it takes 3-4 or more moves. Sometimes it’s so tight the last few pull ups are very short and tight. Back and forth, each time getting just a little bit closer. till you can follow it on around. Sometimes folks look at you as if you have no clue what you’re doing. Lol. God help you if you get a well meaning volunteer spotter who hasn’t a clue. Better off without it. I tell them to stay out of way, this may take me a while. My favorite line is when they say “Trucks do it all the time”, or “Trucks turn around out back all the time”, “we get deliveries from semi’s all day long.” Sure, usually it’s a single axle with a 45 ft trailer. They have no clue. Can’t expect them to. Best to check things out for yourself to avoid getting in jam. That Drivers ready to pass the test right now. Great Instruction Video.
     
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  11. Nahbrown

    Nahbrown Light Load Member

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    More fun with our Grumpy old Timer instructor today. My wife made it through without hitting the trailer tires on the red circled Median. I was not so successful and clipped it a little bit. The blue line is the path I tried to follow. BC4D3DB2-5113-4EFD-BCF3-8990A6EF9A39.jpeg
     
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