DEF = poor quality DEF left me stranded

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Lucar, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. atwal

    atwal Bobtail Member

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    You can buy a tester for less than $20. on line, looks like an antifreeze tester.

    Can u suggest one and any site and how to test before u fill up Plz
    As I think it would b great help and will save $$ and downtime ,
     
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  3. Sportster2000

    Sportster2000 Road Train Member

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    I have used two different styles of DEF testers. The one that you put DEF on the lens and look through it at light (refractometer) and the digital kind. The one that you look through is very finiky. The digital one is very accurate and easy to use. The bad part is that the digital one is expensive.
    https://www.misco.com/digital-def-urea-refractometer

    What you can do is test some once you get it out of the nozzle to see if it meets specs. The main thing is to test what you have in the tank. I have seen it vary up to 5% of what it should have been after a day of running. The heat does change the percentage of DEF in the tank because it will help the water evaporate out of the tank when things are hot. I hope this helps.
     
  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Interesting on the tester I didn't know that.

    Seems like a fella should pump into a pail first to test it. Then if it passes, fill up. I don't have any DEF trucks but that seems like a prudent course of action.
     
  5. Lucar

    Lucar Road Train Member

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    Lol.. pete's house told me that tool cost was over a grand.
    I've contacted truck stop and they started a claim which now has gone to corporate, but we can guess how that sounds like it will go right..?
    lost the whole week on this mumbo jumbo emission crap.
     
  6. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    That's why I should stay out of cali and buy glider.
     
  7. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I thought about it and decided to try it out again and put some in right after midnight along I-80 in IL. It was about as cold as I ran across, but Pilot puts jackets around the dispenser up north and uses heated lines from the storage tank and the tank itself.

    I read a PDF on SCR and DEF quite a while ago, and the concentration is such that it stays mixed when it freezes, (doesn't salt out). The lines on the truck need to purge after shutting down, and there is never any water in the air tanks on this truck, so maybe that is why it works as reliably as it does.


    The system has a minor leak, or had, so I don't want it clear full. No problem with the SCR(what uses DEF) at all on this truck
     
  8. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Were you the fella that had so much trouble with a DPF engine and auto trans a while back that you traded it in?
     
  9. chalupa

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    I read a PDF on SCR and DEF quite a while ago, and the concentration is such that it stays mixed when it freezes, (doesn't salt out). The lines on the truck need to purge after shutting down, and there is never any water in the air tanks on this truck, so maybe that is why it works as reliably as it does.

    Thank you, saved me a lot of reading.
     
  10. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    Maybe not....... much will depend on just a couple of factors like how many complaints , your proof of purchase and their ability to verify and match.

    Gonna take a little while tho......good thing about majors like Pilot is corporate customers and their hate for bad publicity........

    So...if he bought a load of DEF on this date.....and along comes Lucar and JB's, Swift, Schneider etc and they all have complaints.......but again, that will take a little while to compile the data.

    JMO
     
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