Detention and TONU

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I am wondering what the Brokers perspective is (and also o/o) on detention and TONU.

    From what I have read some owner operators do not put any detention time in their agreement and try to just get more money out of the load and if there is a problem they'll attempt to get detention. Then at least they got a higher rate for the load. I've read where some owner operators are reluctant to put that into the initial agreement. Do you prefer that owner operators put detention pay and TONU into the agreement?

    When you initially pick up a new customer, do you not discuss with them detention pay and TONU? If it has already been discussed, why isn't that just part of the regular agreement consistently?

    Is there a "going" rate for detention and TONU?
     
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  3. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    I base detention off of what the truck normally makes per hour. Everyone will vary some.
     
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    boredsocial Road Train Member

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    From a brokers perspective it depends entirely on the customer. From what I've seen across many accounts the people who should be paying detention don't pay it and those who probably shouldn't have to do pay detention.

    If you're doing a load of produce assume it will involve half a day of waiting on each end and won't pay detention. This doesn't mean 'don't haul produce' it means 'charge accordingly for the line haul'.
     
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  6. TallJoe

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    CHR and Coyote and perhaps some others are brokers who would predetermine a detention rate in advance, depending on a customer. For example, they will state in their rate con, the detention starts after 3 or 4 hours $25 do per hour max $220. It is often either you take it or not. I imagine this can be changed/renegotiated, if they are desperate but this tells you that you can't count on detention as a money maker. Such loads (to Walmarts, Krogers, Krafts and such) should pay much better in the very rate.
     
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  7. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Thank you for the replies.

    When you initially make contact with a new broker do you put detention in the agreement?

    And do Brokers pick up new clients without ever discussing detention or TONU?
     
  8. DSK333

    DSK333 Road Train Member

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    CHR and Coyote apparently enjoy insulting carriers with that disgusting "take it or leave it" lowball mentality. I wonder how many times their freight gets put in storage. No way I would sit for 4 hours for free.
     
  9. nax

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    Coyote: pulled 1 load, took 4 weeks to get paid while on "quick pay" setup. Now they call, I give them outrageous quotes, and they balk (good riddance)

    CHR: I get $100-200 more via "my special agent" versus the posting agent. I also get $50-75/hr detention, but 90% of the time, I get unloaded early or within 2 hrs. Being on paper-logs helps keep that on-time delivery to 100% all the time.
     
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  10. loudtom

    loudtom Road Train Member

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    I still can't bring myself to sign addendum D or whatever on Coyote's setup packet- the one that says I agree to run for $1.10 a mile.
     
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