Do chains make it a wide load?

grrr, I hate how the scale cops think it's some kind of game. I'm not out here playing Smokey and the Bandit, I'm trying to earn an honest living. Those cops have nothing to lose, I could lose every thing I've worked for my whole life. It really irks me the way they smirk and talk down to me. Do they really think that because they went through some kind of class and know a few things like measuring slack adjuster movement they know more about inspecting and verifying safety of equipment than I do ?

 

According to the WY and ND dept of transportation (I got a level 2 done in btoh states with the same load) the ONLY thing that makes it a wide load is the width of the actual product/load. Securement equipment does not count. But if you are hauling wheeled equipment, such as MRAPS, the mirrors on the load DO COUNT> The WY DOT told me they write many citations for guys hauling them that don't realize this. It seems common sense to me, but common sense does not seem to be very common anymore.

 

I was thinking of an RGNwhere the binder would be at shin level. That freaking hurts

 

The same way some drivers think it's a game. Let's be honest, the guy didn't measure...and didn't care. They knew it was overweight, and tried to skirt the scale...etc, etc.

The rules are black and white, and at least the cops read them. Obviously the driver didn't....or they were trying to "skirt" the OS permit cost....tell me that doesn't happen, right?

That's why it's as important that the driver know the rules as they do, and makes the carrier, shipper and receiver live by them too.. There is no real getting around it. When you're wrong, you're wrong.

 

having a good laugh for ruining a guys day and likely the guys waiting for the shipment because his binders stuck out an inch and a half on each side ?? I don't even think the cops were right in this situation. They should have reread the "black and white" as you say, but what do they care ?? the case gets dismissed and there's no repercussions on them.

even if they were correct and in that state your binders can't stick out an inch and a half is that any reason to gloat over busting somebody ? I don't understand that mindset, I'm proud my work benefits the shippers and recievers who need these shipments moved. I wouldn't take joy in ruining peoples day and causing hardship on someone.

 

I know RV haulers have to get oversize permits in some states for 102" RV's wiith awnings attached.

 

But then the end buyer of that RV can pull it all over the country, and never even be looked at. . .

 

Common sense tells me unless I'm permitting my load I'm going to do my best to keep everything under weight heighth and length, why would you want to drive around with binders hanging over looking like a dip #### anyway, anytime I've gotten a ticket or a warning I deserved it, 62 in a 55 is speeding, not having a BOL # or shipper on a log book is against the rules, If you think you're doing something wrong GO AROUND THE COOP!!!! But if this guy backed in beside you and his binders that you don't think we're too bad rub down the side of your brand new mirrored tool boxes how would you feel then? 99% of the rules that are put in place are legit, and I'm sure anyone on this thread who has the littlest bit of common sense or has both feet firmly planted on planet earth not planet the dot is out to get everyone will agree, my point the dot is nooooot out to get you, I suggest wearing a seatbelt and fixing your chicken lights

 

Have you ever seen a mobile home toter being pulled backwards behind another one? I had a driver who was ticketed about 10 years ago in Ehrenberg for overwidth. The mirrors on the towed truck are over 102" and since they are not being used as a safety device when its being towed its oversize.
I see piggyback trucks coming from the plant when new, they seem to leave the mirrors on. How is that?

 

They can't catch everyone that's doing something wrong, im going to assume its kinda like fishing, you're not always gonna catch the fish you're trying to catch, but you can eat just about any fish