Do you carry?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by zipsayain, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. Highballin

    Highballin Road Train Member

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  3. Kagetsu

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    OMG. My opinion is that I should be able to carry always. I hate leaving my weapon at home. Good gosh, I'm in Maryland and the gun laws here are terrible.
     
  4. Otter

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    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations do not address firearms or weapons in a commercial motor vehicle. Leaving us to comply with state laws regarding carrying a firearm. While the carry laws differ through out the states, one should note that;
    California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jerkski, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, & Wisconsin do not have reciprocity with other states.

    Florida, New Hampshire, & South Carolina will only recognize permits holders who are residents of the state where the permit was issued.

    If you want to carry a handgun, become a United States Marshall, because you can’t do it everywhere as a truck driver.

    Ask yourself, are you willing to kill someone to keep your truck or wallet? I am. I’ll fight to the death before I part with anything, that’s just the way I am.

    In addition to carry laws, one should be aware that some states do not allow the use of deadly force to protect oneself outside the home or work place, and do not recognize a vehicle as home or workplace, despite the fact that you live in your truck and the truck is your workplace.

    Long arms, other than “military pattern weapons,” can be carried in locked storage in most states, then loaded for protection while parked, a gray area, because some states require the vehicle be plugged in to utilities to qualify as living quarters, such as a motor home. Showing a weapon, or using deadly force, while in a commercial vehicle is a sure way to open the door to harassment.

    I know of a guy who went to state prison for shooting someone who pulled a gun on him to rob him. He slammed the perpetrator in the snot locker, took the gun, and shot the perpetrator. He did 2 years on a 21/2 to 5.

    I carry a Ka-Bar, and a 6D Maglight, I’m also careful where I park. I carried a Winchester 1200 Defender 12 gage in the truck for years, but I wouldn’t want to get caught with it now, especially in a state like New Jerkski, where I’m sure I will spend the night in jail, have the truck towed, lose the gun, and pi$$ off my boss.
     
  5. Lurchgs

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    yeah - that's an easy job to get. But not a bad idea, all things considered.

    His problem is that he took the weapon away from the mugger. Once he'd done that, he's no longer in direct fear for his life - and shooting the other guy makes him the aggressor.

    Odds are, if he'd pulled a weapon of his own, he'd have essentially walked away.
     
  6. DngrKat

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    Not so fast, Libertarian500. There is NOT any Federal regulations that actually prohibit carrying firearms in the truck. Many well-placed people have researched that issue. Your truck is your home and it is a place of business.

    If you walk into a Circle K, guess what he's got under the counter? And if you follow him home, guess what he's got behind the door?

    You have the same right that anyone else has to protect yourself. I have heard many stories of drivers delivering on the docks, or a way out warehouse and been stabbed while getting out of their trucks! Sometimes you can not help where you are asked to deliver! We would be siting ducks if we were singled out and not allowed to protect ourselves.

    Police are instructed to think that carrying protection is a felony. Not so. They are grossly misinformed, as are the whole of the trucking industry.

    Technically, it is a little tricky to cover your six, unless you have done your own research into what state recipocates what other state's CCW permits. You might have to go down to city hall in a few states and obtain your own right to carry permit for that state, but you are legal for sure there in that state.

    It really depends who the officer is that finds your "protection'. Some will put it back down and continue what he's doing, and some will try and take you to jail. You might have trouble clearing yourself of a s0-called-felony, but it isn't against the law. They will try and find the law, but there is no such federal law.

    It's kinda like the officer who keeps on saying that all states have lane violation laws, and you telling him that he is misinformed; that your state has no such thing, and how well the traffic moves because of it. You know you're right, but it'll be awhile before he finds out the truth. It might be a little painful for you until he comes around, but you are in the right.
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    The truck is not yours. It belongs to the company. If the company has rules concerning firearms, then you have to comply or face the prospect of losing your job.

    If you deliver at a place that prohibits firearms, the same rules apply.

    I have never worried about my safety at any docks. One must keep alert at all times. I have also never carried a firearm.
     
  8. AfterShock

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    I'll admit I'm not up on all the carry laws.
    I decided not to pack heat, so I wasn't too concerned then, but now I wonder.

    I've been with O/O's while delivering to military bases that won't allow firearms through the gate.
    They also don't allow alcohol, cameras/film, cell phones, ANY recording device, including CD's and pre-recorded, commercial cassette tapes.

    And they take a look-see to make sure.
    When the O/O volunteered the information about having a 9m/m (Craftsman -- Semi Automatic Projectile Launcher) in the Big truck, he was asked to surrender it to the guard on duty, --- and it would be stored at the guard shack for him to retrieve on his way out.
    No problem.
    Even mentioned that the loads the O/O pulled for the military were the type that the military appreciated that the Big truck truck driver carried a 9m/m (Craftsman).
     
  9. Lurchgs

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    this is true - but it's a policy issue, not one of law.

    Not quite true. If the facility has no process for 'checking your gun at the door' so to speak, as long as the gun stays in the cab, you are usually fine. (excepting places like city hall, court houses, etc - and even then, if the weapon stays outside the building, you are typically ok)

    The basic idea is that they don't want you wandering around inside shooting up the employees - no matter how much they deserve it.

    Again, if it's a private company, it's a policy issue, not a legal one. They can whine and bar you (and, possibly your company) from doing business there, but it's not illegal.

    I always[ worry about my safety - no matter where I am. Even at home in a small town.

    Well, "worry" is too strong a word. I am always aware of my environment and spend time on 'what if'. So, I don't typically wander around the house toting a weapon... but I know where they are and how to get to them from where I am. I don't wander the streets with my hand on my gun - in fact, I rarely wear it about town.

    But when I'm in a.. disreputable part of the city, yes, I have it on.

    As I described it elsewhere - I think of it as a seatbelt. It's mildly uncomfortable, I'd MUCH rather do without, but if it saves my life some time, I'll be darn glad it was there.
     
  10. Roadmedic

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    It may be a "policy issue", but it can also mean the loss of a job.

    If you are found with a firearm at the shipper/receiver and they notify the company, then you could also lose your job.

    It seems that this side of the issue needs to be well known to people.

    Carrying a gun in a vehicle that is not yours but belongs to your employer can have you no longer needing to worry about it.
     
  11. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    Oh, absolutely - not arguing that at all

    I'm just trying to make sure the line between policy and law is clear. The loss of a job is one thing. A door that locks only from the outside is entirely different.
     
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