There is no shame in running "for your LIFE". Take the truck, take the cash, here's my x's cell phone #, tell her Bill says "hey".![]()
Do you carry?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by zipsayain, Jun 25, 2007.
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I used to have a sticker on my jeep that was a yellow caution sign and it read.
Caution:
Driver carries less then $30 in amunition.
I need to find another one of those -
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God created man but Colt made them equal. -
I wish I could remember the man's name - ex Chicago homicide detective - but he teaches some self defense classes. Not "beat 'em up and leave 'em for dead", but 'how to survive an encounter"
His very first recommendation is "run"
reasoning is this:
The numbers he uses are WAY inflated, but it makes it obvious why he teaches as he does. I've forgotten all the steps, but it goes along these lines:
You are at gunpoint, and you run.
Assume a 50/50 probability that the mugger will fire the gun (it's far less than this, but we'll use these numbers)
Now, you are running, and he's fired the weapon. Assume a 50/50 probability that he actually hits you.
Assume you've been hit. Assume a 50/50 probability that it's a center-mass shot and you are dead.
Right there, it's a 12.5% chance you'll die if you run (IIRC, though, he had some steps I've forgotten, and the chance was down around 3%). All based on 50/50, which is very heavily biased in the unhealthy direction.
Compare that to the greater than 50% probability that you'll end up dead if you do NOT run. Not a hard choice to make.
I'll see if I can't find his lecture somewhere, and post a link to it.
(regarding 'hopped up on drugs': all the better. Makes it much less likely that they'll hit anything but the ground when they DO pull the trigger. Remember, the farther away you are from your target, the finer the muscle control needed to hit said target. ) -
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chief said: ↑specifically which law prevents carrying a gun in a truck? last time I checked, the 2nd amendment of the US constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear arms (doesn't say anything about guns though, does it?)
a company can make a rule that you can't carry a gun, but doesn't that violate your constitutionally guaranteed rights? even our company orientation guy says it isn't illegal to carry a gun in a truck, just against company policy.Click to expand... -
When I worked a loading dock, several drivers would show me the guns they carried on them. they were mostly .22 pea shooters. They would always say after showing me the weapon, "I have a permit". Please, they crossed state lines and are in a Federally regulated Commercial Vehicle. a State permit is meaningless. Know firearms law when you make the choice to carry, and never show others. You can NOT get a permit to carry a loaded gun out of your state. With out a permit to carry, you cannot have a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle. in some states, you can have a weapon, unloaded and not in easy access (don't keep it under your seat.) Get near a Federal facility to unload,,, you better not have anything that "looks" like a weapon. Federal Constitutional law for "Have and Possess" stops at your residence. If you shoot someone even in self defense legally, that gun is gone. They call it evidence, but good luck petitioning to get it back. Remember "the Law" is different from law enforcement. We are sheep, they need to protect everyone. The best way they see is an unarmed populace is more easily controlled.
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