Do you feel elogs should be mandatory or optional?

As far as the 'unqualified steering wheel holders of the mega carriers' are concerned... Where are they supposed to get some experience if not from them?
We ALL had to start somewhere in this profession. No matter where and who we began with.
We ALL are doing the same thing moving freight.
It's also a reason why I refuse to get my undies in a knot at a truck stop or wherever when I encounter someone who's taking awhile to plug it into the slot.
Mebee it's a newbie, or mebee it's some guy just having an off day.

Roll on...

 

So who's at more of risk at getting into a serious accident. The guys who is 30 miles from the receiver who logs sleeper birth and drives and backs into dock while he is still suppose to be sleeping in another town. Or the Guy who is on the road outside the plant and drives to the dock open his doors, backs in and goes back to sleep.

If you are telling me you on paper don't do the same thing when you go to the receiver you are not being truthful.

It is safer because you don't have all these companies telling these rookies to go above and beyond their hours. Now I have heard that some might tell them to unplug it or do all kinds of things. But at that point you know its illegal, and if you do it. You have nobody to blame but self.

We can fight all day until we are blue in the face about this issue. The government is going to do what it is going to do, and you have the right to accept it or reject it and move on to another career.

These companies will tell somebody over the phone to violate the hours of service, but not over the computer. So This is a protection against these out law companies who force people to run illegal. Doesn't have nothing to do with being lazy.

Why don't you look at the safe stat scores of these out law companies who have been forced to do e logs. We all know the names of out law companies you think the government didn't. Hey that's revenue. We can go in there bust them. They pay a fine and they are back to doing it again. Risking everybody's safety who is on the road. Greed is why the government stepped in, and I bet they have less revenue now then they did when they could count on the out law companies and out law drivers to pay for their scale houses.

 

What's these "outlaw" outfits you keep referring too? A couple hundred out of thousands of trucking companies. In your eyes any company that tries to run a driver illegally is an outlaw company. Like I have stated THE DRIVER CHOOSES TO RUN ILLEGALLY AND THEREFORE LIKE MY SIGNATURE STATES "YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FORCES THE PUSH FOR E-LOGS" So I must say thanks alot to you.....

 

I have had this discussion on another thread and I even have post from a safety guy with a trucking company that even states E-logs have nothing to do with safety. He personally thinks they enforce drivers to run in compliance with HOS regulations but E-log runners have already stated they break the HOS regulations and get away with doing so since there little movement doesn't trigger the computer. So now that both arguments are out the window what else are they good for?

 

So says the person with 42 years of experience. So are you saying the poor sole on the hook for his schooling. Trying to feed his family has the opportunity to go any where he chooses and works? Who will be at the mercy of his safety manger who may put some bad information on his Dac report which can keep him from getting another job anytime soon. You know if you would stop thinking about yourself and put others who may not have the same opportunity as you in mine. You may see from another stand point. But until then. Enough talking to a rock. Have a good day sir.

 

YOU DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT have to drive for a worthless company that will screw the driver over. There are way to many drivers that come into this industry and have no idea what to think so they just call one of the mega boys up and allow a dispatcher to control them. The driver is the one with the brain and needs to think before agreeing to such demands. You are the one that is fighting for E-logs and saying that they are the best thing to ever happen to trucking not me. I am pointing out in plain sight that they DO NOT make drivers safer nor do they enforce compliance. So what else are they good for? If they do not do the job that you say they do then why are they needed? Thank you I will have a good day.

 

Yes every driver has a choice where he/she decides is worthy of his services. Company's are dime a dozen in this industry so if one tries to push you then say NO, and if that doesn't get the point across then quit and as Lebron James once said take your talents elsewhere.

 

Do you read other threads on this forum? Most of the guys don't have a dollar to their name. When they come into this industry. Why they don't is neither hear nor there. Rather it be from being laid off for months or years and using up there savings to just bad management of money.

Now how many of those good companies pay for their training and give them a job?

How many of the good companies even train those who have paid their own way through school?

Yep so many companies are hiring fresh new faces out of driving school. No experience here come drive my truck. Let me treat you right . I would be scared to train somebody from driving school. Let alone hire him and put my best employee in his hands while he's behind the wheel of the 100,000 dollar truck.

So since you don't know about all these companies who have been forced to get their act together. To hire planners and more drivers so they can get relays and get notices to customers of late shipments. Then I think you have no rock to stand on. To say they are not doing any good.

Old time was here's an apt. Who cares if the shipper is 20 hours late you get it there on time. I don't care how you do it. Just do it. So since you are on paper. It really amazes me how much you know about what's going on. On the other side. I wonder whats your company's safe stat score looking like. E logs have done wonders for mine. So until we meet again my trucking friend. We back quiet, and have a blessed day.

 

Yes I am sure E-logs have helped your company's score since when the driver is breaking his HOS the computer doesn't pick up the movement. What I have stated over and over is if the truck moves while on sleeper berth then that is a log violation. It doesn't matter how serious the violation is. All that matters is the fact it is a violation. Therefore they are fool proof niether is paper. So whats the difference? Whether you run illegal on paper or E-logs Illegal is Illegal... This is the point I am trying to make. If you allow anybody to control the way you drive a truck then you have NO business being in a truck.

 

"Holier than thou" EOBR lovers were running so "illegal" before they had EOBRs....Perhaps they, themselves are the reason that the government is trying to mandate them. So Thanks to you.