Do you feel elogs should be mandatory or optional?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by EZX1100, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    This 'Lady' will never run e-logs! E-logs should be done away with completely, as should the stupid GPS crap. If you can't do this job without relying on some gadget telling you what you should be doing, where you should be going and when you should be going there, then you don't belong in this industry. Leave it to the real drivers!
     
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  3. DMH

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    So your saying you cant run overloaded and have junk trucks on E-logs ? If you really wanted to drive again you could find a job unless your leaving out some part of the story.
     
  4. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    There isn't a driver shortage now. That's a made up situation by the ATA to allow them to continue to lower their starting pay for the drivers. I saw the starting pay posted recently for Werner, and it has gone down since 2007 . . . Starting pay is down since I started in 1999 big time! I started at 32 cpm . . . now starting pay is as low as 23 cpm . . . that's ridiculous, but it will happen because people that have been 'displaced' come in to this industry and accept whatever is tossed their way.

    I've been out of the seat for 10 years, and there is no way I would come back to it . . . I refuse to drive for chump change, I refuse to use E-logs or drive for a company that has EOBR's, and I don't like the changes that FMCSA is making to the HOS because of some special interest group that keeps suing them over the HOS.
     
  5. Stump

    Stump Heavy Load Member

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    I think Goverment should stay out of business and concentrate on there job.
     
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  6. snowwy

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    the rule of driving is NO FATIGUED DRIVING.

    doesn't HOS violate that rule.

    i can drive 11. AFTER HOMETIME. but i'll be lucky to sleep past 6 hours. which means being awake for 4. and then drive another 11. puts me at 15 hours awake.

    my brain never has and never will function according to HOS.

    go back to the old rules if it means that much to the govt. AND LEAVE US ALONE.

    again. NO FATIGUED DRIVING.
     
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  7. Flip Flops

    Flip Flops Medium Load Member

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    That is what I've been saying for a while pretty much..

    In a good economy most of these people wouldn't be out here....Hopefully it will get better at some point and they can go back to driving a desk..
     
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  8. jgremlin

    jgremlin Heavy Load Member

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    Oh I see, so its my fault now if they leave. I guess you never heard of something called free will.

    The changes are coming no matter what. If drivers choose to leave because if it, that is THEIR CHOICE. I won't feel least bit guilty or sorry for them when they're gone.
     
  9. jgremlin

    jgremlin Heavy Load Member

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    That's a mighty fine looking high horse you're sitting on there. Does he eat much?
     
  10. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    well, not to sound like these other guys, if trucks are killing people because they are not well-maintained, i am glad the government is there, looking out for the public safety, same thing with a building department, fire exits, road designs and so forth

    if trucks are having accidents because drivers are fatigued, i also agree that something should be done, of course in my world, going after the dispatchers and low pay would be a first start, NOT hours of service.

    Rest should be a recommendation, and in the event of a major accident, maybe some criminal penalties, but this nanny-state of telling grown men when to sleep is tyranny, and the fact that some drivers are willingly going along with it is purely pathetic, but to each his own

    if you are going to run elogs, then drivers should not be paid by the mile (kinda stupid really) but they should be paid by the hour, this way, they can drive as slow as you want and make a decent salary

    you dont tell a man i am going to pay you by the mile, but i am limiting the miles you drive
     
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  11. Dinomite

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    It's not E Logs its the regulations. You are suppose to do the same thing you do on E logs on paper. I use a GPS not to tell me where I'm going but to tell me how far I have to go. Its also nice when real drivers make mistakes and they can know that the road they are on doesn't have a low clearance on it.

    If you are going to cry about the regulations of government in trucking. You should not cry when the jobs are being given to kids or immigrants. You can run over hours on elogs just like you can on paper. You just have to hear some lady say. You are over your hours till you stop. IF you run over your hours on E logs you will get a ticket just like if you run over your hours on paper you will get a ticket. You might as well be having the conversation of having the log sheets that you can put in your notebook or the log sheets that come 31 in a book. No difference.
     
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