Does driving PC while on 10

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by InTooDeep, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. Expeditor

    Expeditor Medium Load Member

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    Now read number 3 very god reread again. See where it says The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periodsunder 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) or 395.5(a) (passenger-carryingvehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.
    Again see where it says "first such location reasonably available " ? That is why I believe you can't drive on PC for hours on in then say you got your 10 hour rest.
    Now you can start at home after your rest and drive under PC , your CMV, to your place of work to be dispatched. But FMCSA says if you were dispatched while at home then you must log on duty starting at home.
     
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  3. Expeditor

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    Are you really having a hard time comprehending? Or just like to argue? Dude when you drive a personal vehicle it is off duty,let that sink in, Now when you drive a CMV it can be on duty driving or PC. PC and off duty driving is the same thing.
     
  4. ZVar

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    Learn to read yourself. It says after loading/unloading for number 3. I.e. if you run out of hours at a dock, you can pc to a safe location. Don't read anything into it that isn't there. As such the rest of number 3 only applies in that situation.
     
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    Someone can't seem to comprehend anyway....
     
  6. Expeditor

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    Wow Zvar, did you even read the OP question?
    You,are here just to argue. You did the same to me with the CMV BEING COMPENSATED. Now I noticed you using my lines about compensation. Smh
     
  7. ZVar

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    No I don't like to argue. What I like less is idiots spouting incorrect garbage. When called on it and the correct guidance is posted they double down with their stupidity. Other people reading need to know it's stupidity.

    Let your ego go, stop trying to change the subject and actually read the guidance. It's not all that complex. Even you might be able to grasp it if given enough effort.
     
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  8. Expeditor

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    Just like you posted in another post that I posted in. You said a O/O is his own boss no one can tell him how to run his business..
     
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  9. Accidental Trucker

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    PC is off duty driving. Which is off duty.

    One of our drivers takes the truck from home to the farm (60 miles) to load (off duty driving - Personal Conveyance). At the farm he goes to off duty (loading -- ag EXEMPT). From there he goes to off duty driving for 150 air miles (off duty - ag EXEMPT. As far as the ELD goes, his day starts at about 1 PM, when he goes outside the 150 mile zone to on duty driving.

    He's been inspected ( hi there Umatilla scale!, howdy Bow Hill) 7 times in the last 9 months, and other than small comments from the inspectors about wording, he gets a gold star every time.

    Driving from truck stop to restaurant qualifies most certainly as PC. No worries whatsoever.
     
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  10. 88 Alpha

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    Let's keep the discussion civil. It's perfectly acceptable to disagree but you can do it without name-calling or other insults.
     
  11. Cattleman84

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    So just something interesting I discovered the other day...

    I drive a 2016 Volvo, and the main power wire to the After treatment Control Module broke... So the truck went into derate with max of 5 mph. I was only 60 miles from the main yard so I climbed underneath the truck and disconnected the speed sensor (so I could get back to the yard). This fools the truck into thinking its sitting still so you can go faster than 5 mph while in derate, but you loose speedometer, Jake brakes, and the truck becomes absolutely gutless. Not sure if this trick works on other makes of truck but it does on Volvo.

    Now this is the interesting part... It also fooled the eld! It didn't know I was driving so it kept me off the drive line (I did however put myself on the drive line manually). It still had accurate GPS positions for duty status changes, but it didn't know I was driving... And since the speed sensor was unhooked, the odometer readings that the eld records stayed what they were when I unhooked the speed sensor. As far as I can tell it didnt throw any anomalies or red flags into the office... So I suppose if one could figure out how to block the GPS signal for the eld (wrap it in tin foil???) one could pretty much circumvent the whole thing?... Idk, I'm just spitballing here. Hypothetically of course... I generally have no need do cheat the system.
     
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