DOT English proficiency test

It's one of the problems I have with this sudden enforcement kick - there is no standard test and no clear indication on what constitutes a fail. It is largely subjective and is subject to the whims of the inspecting officer.

Which brings up two questions -

1) how does a driver "cure" the OOS?
2) what happens when a driver passes an ELP inspection on Monday in Iowa and fails one on Tuesday in Arkansas?

 

Well let’s see one simple clue would be if a person has to continuously use a translator app to do basic communication with anyone a shipper receiver a fuel desk clerk law enforcement etc.… That why there is clear indication they don’t need to be driving a commercial vehicle because if they can’t even communicate without a translator app, they obviously can’t read English, which means they cannot read highway signs.. must see that happening why because we actually live with our eyes open…

 

Exactly. Laws are never written crystal clear so they're up for interpretation by everyone from the officers to lawyers to juries. This one is no different. If it's obvious, it'll be enforced.

 

I think that officers will largely profile drivers. I see a scenario where that could happen. You may look Middle Eastern, with a Muslim name, but born here, but an officer that's ignorant, and shares some of the views of our "fraudulent leader" will be ok a witch hunt.

I see a scenario where English isn't the primary language, and it's broken, but an ignorant officer still makes it hell for those drivers that don't "look American."

If they really wanted to clean up the industry, they'd ban navigation systems because that's honestly what's protecting bad drivers, American or foreign. The ability to read maps and interpret truck routes would separate the sheep from the goats. A foreigner can just buy a truck GPS and get round just fine, but if you really want to see what they understand, put an atlas in front of them. Hell put an atlas in front of any driver and that way you'll avoid the potential for profiling. I bet DOT won't even enforce this that hard. Also I don't think it'll eliminate as many foreign drivers as everyone thinks. So OP, you may be waiting a while for that video

 

See this is where many of you seem to be failing to comprehend this issue… They don’t have to speak perfectly pronounce English. They have to be proficient enough to understand what is being told to them and read and understand What the signs say it’s a safety issue clearly…

Like the two instances at the Wyoming Port of entry Cheyenne and Evanston two foreign drivers who did not even understand what the DOT officers were telling them one was telling them about Ifta and the other was trying to explain registration and neither one of them was understanding what was being told to them.

I was standing right there both times watching it occur… Those two are clear examples of two that do not need to be driving a commercial motor vehicle because they did not even understand what was being told to them… That is what this issue was about, but some of y’all continue to try to spin it into something else…

As I stated in another post, many of these people are using translator apps when they have to use a translator app to simply communicate the most basic of things they do not understand. Therefore they do not need to be driving a commercial motor vehicle in this country until they become more proficient in the English language to be able to properly communicate with the motoring public.

 

You didn't answer the two questions:

1) How does a driver cure an ELP OOS? In other words, who do they retest with? The magistrate judge in traffic court? Any DOT officer? The specific officer who put them OOS? If someone wants to challenge the legitimacy of the rule, not having a path to cure the OOS is one heck of an in.

2) If a CDL driver passes a road side inspection, then at some point in the future gets put OOS for ELP - what happens? Which officer is correct?

What you're not understanding is that not every officer deals fairly and equally with each person and not every jurisdiction does things the same way.

 

Thanks for proving my point…guess what???..life ain’t fair get over it..what i stated is the fact that using soley a translator app to communicate with anyone is clear and concise evidence of English deficiency and they should be put oos..

 

Could you answer my two questions?