DOT Using prepass for Log Falsification

I got this info off the Pre Pass web site.


Is the information collected at the PrePass weigh station supplied to the government?

PrePass preserves bypass transaction data and all carrier business information with the utmost confidence. Truck-specific transaction data is used in PrePass only for the purpose of managing the bypass events. Such data is not publicly disclosed and is not permanently retained after payment of relevant transaction fees.​

6) Is a driver’s time from one PrePass weigh station to another PrePass weigh station checked to see if they are speeding? ​

Information collected at one PrePass site cannot be passed on to another site. PrePass has no device to record a driver's speed.
Will the invoice show the time that a driver bypassed a weigh station to be compared against my log?
The invoice that is sent to the carrier does NOT list the times that drivers bypassed a weigh station.​

 

The scales are not using the pre-pass computer system to get your information. They are using their own computer system to read the RFID chip in the pre-pass on your windshield. All the scales need to do is send an RF signal on the right frequency to activate the chip. The chip them sends out its unique ID number, the scales computer then dates and times it.

Bobc, DOT auditors doing a standard audit, can only look at the information required by DOT regulations, your company can also voluntarily give them any other information (ie Q-Comm records). They can not use your personnel equipment, like cell phone, air cards, ATM card, Credit Cards.

If you get into a major accident, they will investigate you as a criminal. They can use any information against you. They will use your cell phone records, credit cards, ATM transactions, Q-Comm, any thing that they can get there hands on.

I watched a Federal DOT auditor rebuild a logbook week by week, using the above information. It was a very enlightening day for me. I was still a State Trooper at the time, he explained in detail how truckers cheat the logbook. He explained how they could only use most of the information after a major accident (death or major bodily injury). I could write a few pages about what he taught me, all you driver need to makes friends with a DOT auditor and learn.

Mark

 

I think it's just easier to just log the stuff legally...

 

i married into a trucking family and two of my brother-in -laws are company drivers. both have been fined due to pre pass in il. we're o/o so we dont't run them. just to let you know just because ther are no time stamps on fuel dot does call th fuel company. my friends company gave their drivers two hours on logs. cost um $8,000. cya driver

 

got two sons there now. one on fifth tour there. praying for you and yours

hooah

 

Yes you are right, but as you know that is not always possible. If you are a truck driver then you have fudged your books at some point.

Mark

 

Notice that I said if you used your phone to make or receive a call to/from the company. That phone record is now part of the company's records for doing business. It is available, if the investigator wants it bad enough, to be used just like any other record the company has. It's not much different than a fuel or scale receipt, tolls etc.

If you even occaisionally use your personal ATM card to purchase fuel or anything truck related, it's open for inspection because it has to do with the operations of the company or specific truck/driver they're looking at.

Anything that company has is basically open for use in the course of an investigation standard or otherwise.

 

Note the careful wording.
Not publicly disclosed.
That doesn't say a fed safety officer cannot get it in an instant if he wants it.

More careful wording. There's no radar unit but there's nothing stopping an intrepid officer from obtaining the times between prepass stations & extrapolating a speed from them or using the times as part of HOS check.​

Just because the times may not be on the invoice doesn't mean they weren't recorded & available to an investigating officer.​

 

Fudged? 15-30 minutes is a fudge, This is not what they are talking about when they get out the receipts to match you up after an accident.

 

Fozzy, there is a driver in the PA corrections system because of fudging. 15-30 mins will still get you jail time.