These were matters that you should have sought redress in a court-of-law. Your sites are your business, but this entire thread has become a matter that is now out of control, and now OUR business. It doesn't matter who's being truthful and who is not.
Why are you now bringing this new stuff up? Better yet, why did you not go after him legally for these things?
For the record, I HAVE been ripped off by a company, to the tune of more than $1400.00 and by one that is no longer in business. I've referred to them in a post that was offered some months ago, so I can certainly sympathize with your situation.
The way I see it at this point, is simple. You have offered your opinion on DRD MotorSports, and he has countered with his own. It shall remain intact. DRD has one more response forthcoming, if He should decide to do so, and then I expect this to be dropped.
If there are any current issues surrounding this dispute, PLEASE...take them up with Attorneys. This isn't a court.
DRD Motorsports Inc. - Mt Clemens, Mi.
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This message is specifically directed to DRD Motorsports:
You sent a message to the wrong person. I did receive a copy of it.
My response is as follows:
We receive posts and do not screen them for being factual in nature, because people do have the right to voice their opinion under the rights afforded by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. This forum is merely a venue in which to offer those opinions. I direct you to the "Terms of Use" policy that is posted in regard to the site and the forums, where you will read the following:
"The Trucker's Report is acting as a passive conduit and is not undertaking any obligation or liability relating to any content or activities in a topic area."
Posts that are offered about specific companies, and the content therein, are the sole responsibility of the author.
You are absolutely entitled to rebut any statement made about your company, and you are invited to do so at any time.
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...derators-corner/6573-terms-of-use-policy.html -
I Have, I sued him thru the Michigan DLEG (Department of Labor and Economic Growth; Wage and Hour Division) and won. He didn't like the State's Determination and appealed three times....still lost. The original complaint was filed by me in June 2005, and finally settled March 14 this year.
He owed me more than $4000 in wages. He bounced (then cancelled) an $1801.50 check initially, (which violated TWO laws ~sadly, the County Prosicutor in my County felt it was a civil matter, not a criminal one) How long would it take for a Prosecuting Attorney to file charges on you or I if we purchased something and first BOUNCED the check, then issued a STOP Payment, and KEPT the merchandise? He then refused to pay my last two weeks ($2200). At the hearing referencing the last monies owed; HE stated that he did not get the signed proof of deliveries (a LIE) and didn't even know what those loads paid (what trucker doesnt keep records of what the loads pay? I even did that as an employee) and offered MINIMUM wage, stating that truckdrivers average $5.15 per hour!
Would YOU work for minimum wage at ANY job?
That is indicitive of how he views truckdrivers, particularly his employees.
I did offer my opinion as well as documented facts, but if you notice; he didn't argue or address any of my accusations, not even one. Instead he resorted to ad-hominym attacks and inane arguments about Flying J, which he knows nothing about. I answered EVERY one of his accusations with FACTS, ie HE SAYS: that I only averaged 37 miles per hour and must have been a BAD DRIVER. I ANSWERED with the FACT that the DATA in DriversDailyLog proved that I drove an average of 51.83MPH for 26 days, as well as the statement that I have never been involved in ANY "at fault" accident in a CMV (I WAS backed into twice at truckstops and T-boned a guy that ran a stop-sign) and have NO major moving violations in 20 years. I don't know many people that can claim that.
THOSE are irrefutable and verifiable facts, for which he has no intellegible argument.
There aren't any current issues surrounding this dispute (RE: DRD Motorsports). They were settled March 14, 2006. However, if he continues to attack me with ad-hominyms and assaults on my personal integrity and ability to perform my job, I will continue to answer. I would not expect any less from you.
I will promise you that my replies will always be calm and well thought out and based in irrefutable facts, and I will not resort to the inane name-calling that David Derderian is well known for.
He has been threatning to "sue" me for 14 months now. He hasn't done it yet, and he is more likely to continue to threaten me than to put his money where his mouth is. -
Okay....Roadkill439342, I've thoroughly reviewed this entire thread, and the inconsistencies outweigh any "facts" you claim to be offering. Facts are justified with evidence, so let's go over your own words;
Point #1
On the load I took that had steel belts showing, there was only a "half-dollar" sized flat-spot initially on the tire. I noted it on my logs and showed it to David Derderian. He told me to get the tire replaced on the road. When the steel belts started showing, he told me to continue, that the tire would "last" until I got back to Michigan, another thing we argued about in my short employment there (1 month). I finally convinced him to replace the tire in Santa Rosa NM, he instructed me to replace it with a USED tire I purchased at a tire shop next to the TA. That tire blew after 5 miles and caused damage to the boat I was hauling.
I only worked for him for 1 month, and at the point I was fired, I was going to quit next time I was in Michigan, but as we both know, quitting under load for any reason, justified or not, can put a very dark "BLACK MARK" on your DAC Report that is impossible to explain away. I believe they call it "Abandoning a Load", or something like that.
In another post you offered:
And I WAS fired for "failure to perform", but you were requiring me to drive on to Newark NJ from Newburg NY after I had already driven about 10 hours and spent 4 hours unloading the 70' mast in Maine. That was illegal; for me to continue driving and for you to FIRE me for refusing to.
DRD Motorsports stated:
as for your pay, abandoning the truck and trailer is against company policy, return the truck and get paid , its that easy. did you tell the forum that three police agencies had to get involved to recover the truck or did you just forget that?
Do you see a problem here? I sure do. If you were "fired" in New Mexico, how could you have been "fired" in New York? You weren't fired at all. How do I know this? Again in your own words:
I told you where the truck was going to be, and I also told you that I refused to drive it any further unless you had it repaired.
You did indeed abandon the truck.
Point #2
Somewhere in all of this is the truth, but at this point, who cares anymore? You need to get on with your life, and DRD Motorsports is trying to run a business. Why not let it all go. After all, you claim that this was all settled earlier this year.
If this WERE a court of law, and of course it is not, and I were the Judge, I'd be inclined to dismiss this case and real quick, because the more you post, the more it appears to go against you.
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I take it from your post to DRD that he must have voiced some type of threat of legal action. I wouldn't pay much attention to it. It is my understanding that Legally YOU (the Truckersreport) has no liability as to the posts of your participants.
I wouldnt pay much attention because he is always threatning when he doesn't get his way. It is probably a good thing you aren't discussing the matter over the phone, given his reputation for yelling and vulgar language. Don't take MY word for it, One of the other members already did the research. DRD Motorsports insurance information - Google Search
Check out the link to U-Ship (1st or 2nd link) and pay particular attention to the comments from the customer "bharris" who says: "...bow to the demands...at the convenience of a disrepectful and screaming owner..... If you are willing to take abuse from a crazed owner ...Both my shipping marina and receiving marina have banned them from any further activity at their boatyards."
Only 1 out of 4 comments were positive. A whopping 25% positive rating..WOW!
"disrespectful and screaming, crazed owner"??
INDEED!
That is exactly how I describe him.
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NOPE, no where in any statement do I say he fired me in Santa Rosa NM, or anywhere else BUT in New York. I think you should at least re-read my original statements, or at least what you copied and pasted (just to "prove" I am wrong)
Again WRONG. He fired me in Newberg NY and instructed me to drive the truck BACK to my house, unload my belongings and then DRIVE it to the other side of the state (Mt Clemens, MI). (I DO have a recording of this conversation Thank God to NEXTEL Direct Connect phones!) After I took my belongings out I called him and told him where it was, refusing to drive it further until he had it repaired, which was my right to do. I even suggested I could drop it of at the local Freightliner Dealer (where I had been doing business for over 10 years). That was on Sunday June 26. His answer was to have some cop (and I am not even sure it was, I mean it is hard to see a "badge" over the phone now, isn't it?) call me on Monday morning.
Well, after all, Swift, and JB Hunt are just trying to "run a business". Same goes for all those others who WARN about other BAD (or DANGEROUS)BUSINESSES; they need to get on with their lives too, right?
It is a good thing you AREN'T the "Judge", it wouldn't be long before your cases were turned over on appeal because of your bias.
There aren't ANYin my statements, but only in your comprehension
It isn't I that is losing this debate. Sorry. -
Regardless of any "facts" in this story (and as far as I can see, any actual documented facts are darn far and few between) this whole thing is more than a year in the past and you only worked at the place for about a month. I find it hard to believe that the entire issue is worth recounting in a five minute story over dinner, much less what has gone on here. I find it hard to believe you are wasting time recounting it, since the issue seems to be penny ante in the extreme. If you have had problems with a former employer and still retain a big stiffy for them, well, maybe you have an over developed sense of revenge, and it would seem that your service to the world by pointing it out on your revenge sites would satisfy you.
In fact, from what your former boss said, you have actually increased his business and he owes you a debt of thanks for it. And if that's what truly happened, then your plot to destroy or impede his business seems to have foundered on the rocks of the internet.
So this whizzing contest between the various contestants has gone from a simple unsubstantiated complaint into a case of he said / she said, and I happen to agree with Mack on this. This is Jerry Springer level stuff, not really anything to do with professionals. If either side of the issue is even half as bad as the other side states they are, the real problem is that there is a total and utter lack of professionalism on either side. -
Okay...I cut and pasted those two consecutive sentences from the same post, but upon reading them again, I can see how they might not be related. You were supposedly fired after one month, and the previous sentence where you blew the tire in Santa Rosa, N.M. was a separate issue. My apologies.
Right or no right, you were fired, but you still abandoned the truck. Until you returned it to the place you were directed to, despite any mechanical issues involved, it was in your possession, and you were obligated to return it. Am I to believe that the truck magically developed the mechanical issue in your driveway, and that this prevented you from taking it further to where it belonged? You realize how incredible that sounds, don't you? You didn't want to take on to the terminal, and hid behind the mechanical issue AFTER you got home. -
I am not "recounting it", as much as I am (still) sticking up for myself, and as long as people who have no real knowldge of (either) continue to make silly accusations, I retain the right and duty to respond. There are MANY good verifyable facts on BOTH websites. With DRD, I provided scanned photocopies of his criminal actions that affected me directly. As to Flying J, if anything I said on that website was false, how long do you think it would be before they would sue me and shut down the site? (That site has been UP since 1998) They already tried that and the Jury did NOT find any truth in their accusation that I was posting FALSE statements on my website.
.He has no credibility,
- as of July 2006, according to SAFER Web - Company Snapshot DRD MOTORSPORTS INC, he only has TWO trucks. That is ALL he has(even when I worked for him). I KNOW this is NEW information, because last year SAFERSYS had listed 1 accident and 1 tow.
- just look at the links I have supplied of statements from his own customers. (RE: DRD Motorsports insurance information - Google Search Check out the link referenced as U-SHIP and look at the "DRD Profile") Don't they mirror pretty much what I have said about him? He was struggling when I worked for him, he is struggling now.
- Biggest problem? He has no cash-flow. He doesn't pay his bills. He has NO credit cards, or at least he had a real hard time paying for fuel in the 4 or 5 weeks I worked for him. His "fuel" cards were continously being "declined" while I was trying to purchase fuel. And he would treat the poor hapless fuel clerks the same way he treats everyone else.
So you would agree then, that all the OTHER drivers that complain about Companies illegal and dangerous practices lack.as well, right? Or is it just because I don't immediately pee all over myself when someone says I am wrong? Instead of attacking the messenger, why don't you try to break the message down and refute that, instead of ad hominym attacks, if you are able? Turbo certainly cant do that, I am sure you will fail as well. -
For the record, DRD Motorsports did not threaten this site in any manner.
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