DriveCam....

Discussion in 'Millis' started by Cooper09, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. king Q

    king Q Road Train Member

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    This is all true.As you say pure and simple as long as there are no anomalies like black ice or an oil/diesel spill.
    There you have it , there is a problem on the roads with a lot of drivers driving badly.I don't think its most but definitely enough to warrant action.
    Here you are 100% wrong and here is why.When a driver is in the habit of tailgating they will also have to brake excessively often.The stupid camera will record this and the driver will have to answer for this to someone.They will then have to either change their bad habit or get fired for dangerous driving.
    If a driver is in the habit of doing this they will either have an accident or they will have to brake excessively often.The stupid camera will then show this and the unsafe habit will have to stop or the driver will be fired for dangerous driving.
    You are entitled to your opinion even if it is contrary to evidence and facts.I have seen drivers adapt because their bad habits are highlighted.
    Good drivers don't have recording viewed by anyone except for the odd unavoidable pothole because they drive in a manner that does not trigger the G force meter.I have drivers that might have 1 clip in 6 months actually viewed.I then also get new drivers that have 6 or 7 a day.They then get called in and shown what they are doing wrong.They nearly always adapt their driving style.
    Would you rather as you stated before leave most drivers tailgating?
    I would rather not only my drivers but all those round me adapt safer habits.
     
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  3. Scott101

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    ... It fits the "Big Brother" definition perfectly.
     
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  4. king Q

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    If a company leaves the viewing and scoring to the companies supplying the cameras then there is a problem.
    Those people sitting scoring drivers at these agencies appear to have no experience and score from a generic list it appears.
    I assume they are also bored to the point of being comatose.
    Only someone who has enough real world experience can make an informed call.
    Some of the comments about drivers I get from the agencies are so bad it does not even warren discussion.
     
  5. Raiderfanatic

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    You're entitled to your own opinion. If you want to allow someone to be able to watch you like a child, that is on you. I will not allow it. A camera facing the driver or inside of the cab is an intrusion of privacy, IMO. A dash cam facing the traffic is sufficient enough to prove if a driver was driving dangerously. No one needs to have a camera viewing the inside of the cab. You can say all you want when the video is being viewed but I don't buy a bit of it. If you want to believe those that sit in an office won't abuse or spy or whatever on drivers, regardless if they are moving or setting....that's your choice. But I know better. People are vindictive, mean, underhanded etc....Or just plain curious.

    Maybe if companies would quit hiring idiots and actually hire professional truck drivers, then there wouldn't be so many issues. But installing cameras to view the inside of the truck isn't going to solve anything. Idiots will still speed through truck stops, still fly through fuel islands, run right on the rear of others, jump right out in front of faster drivers....none of that will be effected by your big brother style of work environment. Companies need to quit "training" inadequate drivers and quit having them train other inadequate wannabes. It's a cycle perpetuated by these money hungry trucking companies. It's all about these companies padding their pockets and putting drivers that have no business on the road.
     
  6. Old - School

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    LOL King Q My only question to you is how much are you getting to defend the cameras. I'll bet good money you're an employee working at one of the places that provide the cameras.
     
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  7. Hegemeister

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    When i learned I would have to use elogs I was really bummed out. Now I would never want to go back to paper logs.
    I believe the "critical event " philosophy. If you are a good driver, odds are it will save your butt before it hangs you!!!
    Also, I heard the driver has the option to record a clip manually. How many times has another driver cut right across your bumper to grab an exit ramp? Just one example.
     
  8. king Q

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    If some run round screaming "big Brother" about things they have no experience with or understanding of they play perfectly in to the hands of "Big Brother".
    They undermine and discredit those who are fighting the real fight.
    How "The Man" loves the sheep who through their ignorance and victim mentality protest and ghosts and in doing so smooth the way for them.
    Talk about aiding and abetting.
     
  9. king Q

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    So how much is it you want to bet?
    I just happen to have experience with these items and am not basing my opinions on ignorant , paranoid , victim mentality.
    As I have stated before , people are welcome to their own opinions.
    They are however not entitled to their own facts.
    I do understand that this has never and will never stop some.
    It is better for a person to keep their mouth shut when they are ignorant and thought dumb rather then open it and remove all doubt like we often witness.
    BTW go read post 92 , I think Drivecam is a poor product that offers poor service.
     
  10. Old - School

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    Any time the subject comes up about the cameras you seem to show up and start trying to put out the fire. I'm sure in your opinion anyone that has a differing opinion you look as being dumb and void of all facts. Just because I don't like the cameras doesn't mean I'm ignorant, paranoid, or have a victim mentality. It might just be that I wouldn't like having a camera in my personal space and not having any privacy at all. And yes we all already know if you don't like it then leave.
     
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  11. king Q

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    What are you talking about?
    I don't know of any such system.
    Do you know of any company that is using such a system?
    What is this system called.
    I would not be in favor of that?
    Cant say I know anyone who would tolerate that.
    You know what happens outside the cab is usually caused by what happens inside the cab.When it is not it is good to be able to prove nothing untoward was happening in the cab.You obviously realize all these idiot drivers people keep talking about are sitting in the cab don't you?
    If you don't that's your choice but it does not change the facts.I'm just here telling those who may be interested what the facts are based on driving trucks with a Drivecam and also sitting in an office at the computer where the clips get sent.
    So you Know better do you?How is it that you know better?
    How much time have you spent driving a truck with a Drivecam fitted?
    How much time have you spent in an office where the receiving computer is located?
    Yes they are and I agree with you in that respect but the Drivecam can not be activated from the office.It can only be activated manually by the driver or by the G force meters.A Fact that whinny victim mentality loudmouths keep ignoring.
    These cameras make movie stars of idiots and ignore the professional.This is how companies can tell the difference.
    Evidence says otherwise.This poor behavior now becomes known and can be dealt with.
    You know zero about our work environment and yet you on a public forum state as fact it is big brother style... mmmh.I see a pattern here.
    What has this got to do with cameras? The cameras if anything expose this.
    I get it , you are bitter at this.Venting your frustration at a piece of hardware you know little about is misguided.
     
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