Driver Logs

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Georgia40, May 27, 2020.

  1. Georgia40

    Georgia40 Bobtail Member

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    Who do I talk to about my driver logs? I just started truck driving and the company that I work is logging me off duty even when I'm still on duty. They log me off duty during fueling, drop & hook, going into line haul and anytime the truck is not physically moving.
     
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  3. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Find a new company... And dont accept any edits that you dont agree with. Anytime someone other than you edits your logs you have to either accept or reject the edits... DONT ACCEPT AN EDIT YOU DONT AGREE WITH!!!
     
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  4. Georgia40

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    The Driver trainer sat in the passenger seat and watched me type in my password. He would then log me off duty without my knowledge.
    I haven't been with the company long enough to complete my contract with them for sending me to CDL School. I guess I will have to leave, take my chances and see how it all works out.
     
  5. Cattleman84

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    If it's just another driver (cause thats what trainers are) editing your logs I'd call your safety and compliance department and discuss it with them. This would probably be best done alone. Might be a good idea to talk to your trainer about it first and try to resolve the issue amongst yourselves be for escalating it up to safety. YOU will ultimately be the one that takes the hit for false logs when the DOT finds it in an inspection. Do Not Allow this to continue.
     
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  6. Georgia40

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    I tried talking to both trainers. They said I was costing them money. But all it really did was get them more ### time in the sleeper berth.
    I talked to Safety yesterday and while Safety did agree that the trainer logging me off duty during fueling wasn't right. Safety didn't bother to call me back. I was logged off duty when I drop and hook and go into line haul.
    I need a lawyer that's knows how to get things done. The Hours of Service are going to matter on this next stimulus bill. Truck drivers will need 484 hours of HOS during I'm pandemic in order to qualify.
     
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  7. ZVar

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    Well, if the trainer is logging you off duty, you can always go back and edit the logs yourself. Simply don't certify the logs until you have a chance to fix it. That's the short term solution though.

    Before you spend money on a lawyer, you need to get with you training manager and get a new trainer. Ask for a company trainer and not a lease trainer. In my experience all lease trainers care about is using you for more miles so they can make that truck payment.
    If the training manager doesn't want to help then go to the terminal manager.

    Also, just to verify, you are the one actually fueling, or drop&hooking, or doing the paperwork when he puts you off duty and not the trainer?

    Also, which company?
     
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  8. Georgia40

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    Yes I'm talking about when they log me off duty when I'm fueling, in the line haul and drop or hooking. I know it's put me working over the 14 hour period a couple of times.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Well, you can be on duty over the 14 hour mark. Just can't drive after that.

    But your first call this morning should be the training manager to get a new trainer.
     
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  10. Brandt

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    Ask him why he changing your logs ? It's kinda like getting him to admit their is no reason to change your logs. Two driver can work 140 hours a week. It's really not needed to even worry about running out of hours. If he can make money with 140 hours a week available. Something must be wrong with him.

    My guess would be he ran paper logs before and is just hooked on the idea of saving every possible minute. But he going to far not logging fueling time and stuff. It just not something he should be doing when you have two drivers. Plus he suppose to be training not really do that messing with your log book.
     
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  11. Brandt

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    A new driver also might not understand all the fine details of driving. Like when your fuel, are you using his fuel card or your ? If it's his card, then he has to log it and their is no reason for you to log fuel stop also. That will mess up your driving time later.

    If the truck is doing 5,000-6,000 miles a week then how you log is pretty important. If not driving so much then you have time you can waste. In the end once your driving solo you can run your log book anyway you want. So it not worth getting a lawyer and going that way. Have a goal of getting the training part over and getting your own truck. Then you can run your log book anyway you want.

    I find it hard to believe your fueling on you fuel card like COMDATA and not logging that because that easy thing for D.O.T to check. But remember they don't check stuff like that very easy. If their was an accident they will chack. But you average road side inspection. They can't check that
     
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