Drivers parked in the way

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by hvxjim, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    That, folks, is what mace is for. If a person has clearly demonstrated anti-social, non-courteous behavior, and he/she has been spoken to by drivers and management alike, it's time to mace them.

    Ok, Mr Jerk, enjoy your sandwich, soda and cigarette, but in the meantime, you can't see crap and your day is ruined for several hours.

    There has to be a time where trying to be nice, even being aggressive doesn't work with some folks...

    I preface the mace spraying with.. "sorry, I tried to be nice, as several other people did.. it seems that you don't care. That's cool, but I'll be you think about it next time."

    If I'm going to wait behind someone like that, I'm going to make it worth my while.
     
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  3. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Keep in mind macing someone could get you in more trouble than punching their lights out....
     
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  4. ac120

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    You have done this?
     
  5. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    I don't think so, and that's another topic. I've used mace 6 times in 3 years, never heard a peep about it, even after talking directly with the West Monroe, LA police after the last time.
     
  6. ronin

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    Yes, after being threatened to have my a&& kicked, sure. And twice with crackheads freaking out because I wouldn't give them money.

    Bear in mind, for all the truckstop lawyers... "battery" is damage done during an assault that shows the impact of the assult, with semi-permanent evidence - like a black eye after you punch someone. You're into felony territory in most jurisdictions if you break a bone. With mace, sure it hurts, and ruins their day, but there's no "battery" (proven many times in all levels of court), and that's why it's approved for non-lethal force in police departments. Heck, a taser causes much more "battery" than mace.

    This isn't the forum for this discussion, so I'll defer it, but enough is said that you're not going to jail for macing someone after they're threatened to kick your arse, or worse.
     
  7. Injun

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    +1? Les. In most States, "mace" (pepper spray) is considered a weapon just like a knife or firearm. It is deemed lawful to use when you are being threatened. Use-of-force laws apply: You may use the level of force necessary to stop the threatening behavior and no more. (Castle law does not apply to public access areas--like a fuel island.) The offending driver telling you to go pound sand, while infuriating, does not constitute threatening behavior. Neither does being in the way and refusing to move. Extremely inconsiderate, yes. But not a threat level to justify hosing 'em down with pepper spray.

    Although plotting such things can be singularly gratifying.
     
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  8. ronin

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    There's a difference between "hey buddy, pound sand" and "F you, I'll beat yer a&&". I wouldn't react in any manner that didn't directly relate to the way I was approached.

    I'm a traimed POfessional, you know.
     
  9. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Thank you I couldn't have said that better.

    Ronin, defending yourself is not what we Are talking about. With what you stated would be considered assault. Although I do agree some idiots need it.
     
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    Then assault it is.. lock me up.
     
  11. ac120

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    I'll rephrase my question, putting aside "battery," crackheads, and threats to your person even though they weren't in the question nor part of the thread: You have done this when another driver wouldn't move after you asked/told him to at a truckstop or a dock?
     
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