Drug Testing?? Having problems with my boss

Hopefully they pay you for going to take a drug test. If so they can random me all they want, Im drug free and Ill smile while the cash hits the bank.

 

try and find one when you have a 53 foot trailer behind you.

 

It's called "reasonable suspicion" testing.

 

and it has to be listed a such!

Actually you have it backwards, Reasonable Suspicion requies direct observation and documentation of the suspicious behavior by a supervisor trained to do so. Companies I worked for often had the requirement that TWO trained supervisors observe and document [in writing] the behavior they observed. You don't just order a RS test because you 'feel like it'.

Random testing requires every driver to be in the pool every time the candidates are picked. My third party provider picks every quarter; large companies usually do it monthly. Some names show up more often and some never get picked, this is what random is all about.

The whole process is confidential so you will never be able to prove it was punative.

Be the better man and pass the test.

Remember any compliance audit will go thru the past 5 years of drug and alcohol testing. You can always hope they look at this test and wonder why you were not on the random selection list.

His reply that it was a reasonable suspicion test without the chain of custody and clinic results being marked reasonable suspicion AND without documentation for the reason the test was ordered will excite the compliance examiner.

Drug and alcohol related fines are not negotiable and can be severe especially if you are not the only improper test it could cost him thousands!

 

Well how random is that, if your name comes up more times than others. Mathematically each name has the same probability to come up, so the 'random' crap is hogwash. I think they just look at the list and go hmmm, lets send this guy

 

whats backwards in my comment in response to his statement "that any trained supervisor can order drug testing" is RS?

Absolutely it has to be documented as RS if that is indeed the reason, and you are correct that an employer cannot justifyably initiate an RS test just because he feels like it. The determination must be based on based on specific, contemporaneous, articulable observations concerning the appearance, behavior, speech or body odors of the driver. Whole lot easier for a company to fake a random than an RS, but even a negative RS helps pave the way for other action.

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Hey Crunchy, just go take the test and then forget about it. It isn't worth getting up-tight over.

 

That's what random is! At each sampling everyone has the same likelyhood of being picked, so it is possible for one to be picked more often than others. The only way to remove the possibility is t remove previous selections from the pool until everyone has been selected. Then it would no longer be random, which would mean the desired deterrant effect would be cyclic.

Best regards

 

Yep and then be kinder to the boss.

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My trainer told me once he worked at a place where they "random" tested.

He said that there wasn't much random about it. He said there were guys he KNEW "used" and he was chosen a disproportionate amount of times because he always tested clean and management knew the other guys wouldn't so they would pick him to "fill quota" or something along those lines.