Dump truck vs dump trailer: need advice

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Navigatorpirate, Apr 24, 2023.

  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    An 18-speed would probably be best, but a 13-speed would be better than a 10. And you should probably have tall gears in the rear end.
     
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  3. Giobanks23

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    Can I haul a 6 axle end dump in NC? If it's over weight just grab a permitt? It's hard finding a tri axle day cab with a 13 speed
     
  4. Daycabinit

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    Your not going to find a cheap truck like a frieghtliner or prostar with anything other than a ten seep and “tall” gears are the last thing you need unless u want to break axles you need shortest gears in the rear you can find
     
  5. RockinChair

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    You're right, I had the terminology backward in my head. I was thinking that low (numerically high) gears were tall.

    Personally I would start with 3.73, but 3.90 or 4.11 might be better.
     
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  6. Lazer

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    As you are just getting into the market, explore what you would need to haul ‘debris’. Lots of dump guys won’t haul it no matter the pay. Generally speaking, hauling digouts, clean outs, etc., a dump box is usually preferable because you may be unloading at a landfill, or local dump.
     
  7. abyliks

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    most aren’t even long enough to put a hydro tank on,
     
  8. Giobanks23

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    I found a international prostar with a 3.55 gearing so I gotta find the right one now but like yall mentioned it's hard to find something higher than 10 speed . I can find them with a 13 but notna tri axle but wheelbase is about 190. The international is a tri axle with 230 wheelbase 475hp. I wonder what's the weight of the truck and the trailer is a Mac 6 axle 36ft 102w 92h end dump.
     
  9. Al. Roper

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    I'm also in NC...if you want to run a 6 axle trailer, best of luck. We got rid of 34' triaxles because they're just too heavy to do tonnage work. Went with 39 96 60 frame less trailers...that 92 high trailer also is gonna prohibit loading in a lot of places, unless you're hauling scrap and loading with a grapple. I worked for CDJ for 3 years and our trailers were 40 102 72. And that is almost too haul in some places. If you're loading off a belt or grapple the taller trailer doesn't hurt, but a wheel loader has a hard time getting over bed. Just my .02
     
  10. Al. Roper

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    Far as the truck, 3.55 are a good usable gear with 475 or better hp. The 13 makes pulling hills easier being able to split a gear. I've got a buddy with a prostar with a 450, 3.25 rears and a 10 speed that does ok. He mainly stays in the flat ground though
     
  11. Giobanks23

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    I am willing to haul anything that's not gonna mess up the trailer. The truck is a 10 speed with 230 wheelbase tri axle. I will look into finding a 13 speed with the spec. Soo 92in yall think is to high for the trailer as I was just trying to maximize everything tk make sure I'm good for any job and can haul big tonage because it can haul 60+tons. Do yall think if I tuned it to 500hp would that make up for being a 10 speed instead of a 13?
     
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