Yes in Calif. engine dealerships are responsible for negligence in non emission compliant trucks. I think small claims is the best way for me to go since 10K dollars is the limit.
dyno test responsibility
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by areelius, Apr 5, 2013.
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Very sad.
Its always someone elses fault to some people.
Man or woman up and realize you screwed up and don't try to have someone else take responsibility for your screw up.
I realize what I say on the internet won't make a bit of difference to someone whos mind is made up to take advantage of someone else. But..... at least I can sleep at night with a clear conscience.Licensed to kill Thanks this. -
Old saying, buyer beware.
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Just cut your losses, sell it outside the state of California & tell any potential buyers about this issue & then go buy yourself a different truck.
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I'm not sure I'd take a 4 month old Dyno pull as current or credible.What exactly was the Dyno pull for? If it was simply to check power, and not part of some sort of full blown vehicle inspection, to include emissions.Not sure why the dealer would look farther into history if engine.Private party sales, I don't think your full disclosure applies.As a private party, you don't ask, I don't need to tell.Now if you simply asked if engine was original, and you were told it was, only to learn what you know now, that's a different story.A 13 year old truck...
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It is possiable that the ECM is from an older model truck. Just because the "dyno printout says it's a '95" does not mean it is a '95 engine. The dyno only reads the information on the ECM. ECM's go bad all the time, infact the 99-00 12.7 is know for having been poorly sealed from the factory causing it to go bad (I had one that did) so it may not be as big of an issue as you are thinking it is. Check the engine tags and S/N before you go blaming people and getting all worked up.
If it is just an old ECm, all you will have to do is have Detroit reflash it to a LOW NOX version of the software.... and being in CA, you will also have to install a DPF filter system -
Do they have to check every single time a truck comes in, even for a grease job? I'd like to see a link to this law.
Also like others have stated, it might just be an older ECM. Look at the tags on the valve cover, you may have to remove some brackets. -
In california the seller is responsible for compliance to and making a vehicle commercial or not smog complaint for the year it was made, so if the seller changes engines and takes it out of compliance it is the sellers responsibility to it smog compliant again. Time to go see an attorney and get your money back.
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Powder Joints; at last someone who understands the responsibility engine dealerships have when it comes to emission compliance. It is the dealers who should understand their responsibility when they encounter a noncompliant truck. They are professionals in the field, and when they don't do their job, they can expect to end up in court.
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Thanks; that is the kind of solution I was hoping to find. If I wanted to be critisized, I could listen to my wife. I asked for help from my fellow truckers , but so many just want to find fault.driverdriver Thanks this.
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