Yes, I am. I'm Dutch, moved to Canada 15 years ago. Was happy not to have to work with the digital tachometer. Very fond to go back to paper logs.
Though i am not too pleased with E-log I do see the advantages. I am pretty sure though that lots of drivers don't see it or only see the negative side...
E-log causing more stress?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Wim, Jul 24, 2018.
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The HOS are written to keep people from driving tired. There are plenty of people that have a spotless log but are still tired. I do understand what you are saying, some companies would hop you up on coke and drive you for 24hrs if they could do it legally, but that's not the reason the feds give for implementing the HOS, they claim it keeps people from being too tired and having a wreck. -
And yes, mine only penalizes me 5 minutes EACH TIME as well...but they add up. When you've got a busy day and you know you're racing the 14 as well, the last thing you want to do is start fighting with an ELD when it isn't wanting to give "on duty" as an option because you've selected it every time the truck stops (to check in, drop, hook, etc...) and don't stay there very long before it kicks you up onto the drive line when the truck moves again...so you have to either log out and log back in to get the correct option, or select an incorrect option and then go back and edit it to the correct status. I have since decided to quit messing with the stupid thing and just use YM at shippers and receivers...logs all of my time there on line 4 where it should be without continuously kicking me back up to the drive line whenever I move the truck a short distance. Only annoying thing now is after 5 minutes it generates a message "are you still driving?" ...but at least it leaves me in YM if I don't respond. It's line 4...no need for that message.
You or your company pays big bucks for your system...glad you have money to throw at a company that lobbied for the mandate, knowing full well it was money in their pocket. For all of the people who dislike "special interests", especially groups working against you, there sure are a lot of you who cozy up to them. Personally, I have better things to spend my money on than handing it over to a company that is working against me. Even burying it in a can out in the back yard is a more productive use of my money, because at least I still have it if I need it. Bad enough I had to buy an ELD...but it wasn't really all that expensive and it works better than yours. How so? It doesn't keep as much info (truck codes, overspeed/hard braking events, etc...) to report that to anyone. It also doesn't put my information out there in the cloud or on the internet...MY data is secure on my device. It also doesn't connect to the internet, wifi, or cell network, so it would be difficult for a hacker to gain access to my truck's ECM through the ELD. My truck is old enough that there are no firewalls in the system...back then, the only access possible was if you were hard-wired in...and you had to physically be in the truck to do that. But hey, if you're happy making corporations that lobbied against your best interest rich, sending your personal data into the cloud and onto the internet, and opening back doors into your truck's ECM then you go right on ahead paying monthly for your overpriced system that doesn't comply with the law any better than mine, which was bought at a small fraction of the cost and has NO monthly fees.25(2)+2 Thanks this. -
Mine switches to on duty after the vehicle hasn't moved for 3 or 5 minutes, I don't know exactly. But it goes back to the moment the vehicle stopped moving meaning I don't have any extra driving time. If I did go off duty I can always change that later on.
I never lose time in that way. I'd like to say a lot of bad things about ELD's but I can't... -
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If I select drive, it doesn't seem to go back after being on duty, if I let it pick it automatically, it may or may not. It's E-ROAD and it's eroded my respect for the whole process.
It will show a grid corresponding to the actual length of time in a duty status, even a few seconds of line 3 or any of the other lines.
Personal conveyance and yard move, as well as line 3, cannot be edited.
For pedigreed bulldog, the touchscreen is balky, and hard to see, you have to have a little dot showing and activate that to get the duty status selection displayed. -
Didn't know all systems work differently. Have to admit I never really looked into it too...
To be honest, I don't worry too much going a couple of minutes over time. I don't see DOT fine me when the rest of the book looks perfectly okay.
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My small company selected them, too, I talk to the back office guy quite a bit, and have advised other drivers on how to do split breaks, it's arse backwards, in the device. Often shows zero drive time available after the 8 or more because it doesn't pause the 14, but completing it with the 2 or more shows no violations.
I found out right away about that, as have a few others.
There are other issues, but I won't get into that here.
Suffice it to say, if you knew what you were doing, keep on doing it.
I'll see if I got a 14 hour violation for yard move at the yard after the 14 was up. Add on edit, this system has been around a long time, in New Zealand.Wim Thanks this.
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