E-logs and Reality

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Red Hot Mess, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. jerrytdd

    jerrytdd Light Load Member

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    If E-logs are so good why do i have to carry a paper log with it? I,ve never had to carry a E-log to back up paper logs!
     
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  3. thesvg

    thesvg Light Load Member

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    Logs were a headache, All of my runs are local 5-50 mile loads. :) I only keep track of my hours.
     
  4. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Yet another example of someone who doesn't read previous posts or can't think beyond the end of their nose. The paper log is in case the Elog malfunctions, dimwit.
     
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  5. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I have a feeling he was being sarcastic but he made an excellent point, paper logs don't need a backup, unlike the much loved E-logs. The only time my paper logs malfunction is when my pens run out of ink!
     
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  6. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Nah... you still need a backup. A second logbook, when the first one goes dry! Tell ya what - start running 8/2 splits on that paper logbook, and keep it all legal. Then do the same on elogs. You'll appreciate that ol' computer a whole lot more after a couple of days.
     
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  7. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    Done it a few times. Its not that hard to keep track.

    FWIW, when I had my recent level 2 in Arizona, the officer thought he had me a couple of times on violations but realized I had in fact logged a proper split. :)
     
  8. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    I did the splits on paper since we got the 8/2 thing in 2003. Not any problems. But I do concede that having the Elog to them is a heck of a lot easier with no risk of a screw up.
     
  9. jerrytdd

    jerrytdd Light Load Member

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    So mental giant of the trucking world, Do i tell the dot officer my paper log malfunctioned but i,ve got it backed up on electronics if they want to download the engines computer? or subpoena my cell phone records? yes sir your a prime example of what you preach! lmao
     
  10. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    You don't fill out a paper log and e-logs. As I trained my drivers, I only asked them to keep a paper log for a few days or weeks until the driver and I was secure knowing they knew what they was doing and everything was working up ot standards. I bet if you contact your company and tell them you are still doing paper logs (assuming you have been on it for more than 2 weeks/30 days) they will tell you to stop the paper logs.
    You only do paper logs if your computer breaks down or you have a sensor failure sweetie :).

    If you keep paper logs after "training" periods and e-logs, you could get written up. I would say if you are "training" hte officer would understand, however your paper log should reflect the same duty status within 15 minutes/knowing e-logs is by the minute/5 minutes some companies
     
  11. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    No in case of malfunctions, you need to get a copy of your previous 7 days logs/14 if you are going to Canada, THEN you start paper logs until you get your computer fixed.

    You shouldn't be keeping paper and e-logs....Unless maybe your in training period....That's just for your security and the companies, incase you are not doing it correctly... That's all. After training, your on e-logs and life is soooooooo much easier in the log world :)

    However you can still falsify your logs by logging the incorrect duty status, make sure you are ALWAYS logging the correct status.
    There is a difference between off duty & sleeper..Most drivers don't think there is and that can lead to a fine :yes2557: Just adding that in
     
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