Echo logistics

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Mattflat362, Mar 17, 2021.

  1. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

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    I ran a load for these guys on 2-3-21. I was not given a BOL from the shipper nor the broker. So as I have had to do dozens of times over the years I wrote, "Rec'd" and drew a line on the rate con next to the item description and had the receiver sign. All went well with the load and I let my broker know that we had no BOL and that I would get sig on my con.

    Here we are 3-16-21 and I call to inquire about payment and get this: "Oh we process our paperwork through India and they didn't like it".

    Wait. WTH!!? Did I work for them!? WOW.

    I am friggin livid man. Not that it is super late but because had I not called them they would have just simply not paid and they let India decide what happens!!

    I assure you ALL when I cross over to the other side (brokerage) you carriers be treated like gold.....nothing less.
     
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  3. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    That sucks.. U dont carry blank BOL with you ? That is a must have in flatbed at least... not sure how often it happens in van/reefer but flatbed lots of equipment moves with no paperwork... fill out blank one , good to go.. I believe it is a major violation to not have a BOL when hauling freight
     
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  4. Mattflat362

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    I had no idea it was a violation. Wow. Still learning after all these years.

    I do kinda have a blank one....a blank area on my billing document I use. At the bottom I have a blank spot for description and a line for sig but I have never used it. I always just have them sign the rate con right next to the description of what I am hauling and/or next to the receiver address.
     
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  5. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    I think you can get legit blank generic BOLs at truck stops, but I'm not sure because my carrier supplies them, so I've never had a need to shop for them. If you ever get in an accident or get pulled over, they'll want your BOL. Like if you get pulled over in a car they want license and insurance, but if you're in a big truck then it's license, insurance, registration, and BOL. If you're missing any of the above, then eyebrows go up and all sorts of extra questions start getting asked.
     
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  6. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

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    I have never been asked for BOL that I can recall. It may have slipped my memory since 1994 though.
     
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    Or the requirements may have changed. :)
     
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  8. Freddy57

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    Unless they give you an envelope of cash up front, you never haul anything without a signed BOL. The requirements are: who shipped it, what the load contains, how much there is, who it is consigned to and signed by the shipper. Without that, you have no legal right to collect your money. You may not get paid for this load, but learn from it and don't let them do it to you again.
     
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  9. Mattflat362

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    LOL I went direct to receiver via email and got a signed BOL prettty quicky and resubmitted. I did this instantly.

    Not getting paid was never a option here. You would have to be real real bad at business to accept that. As a matter of FACT...before that happened humans would be visited by me. I am a big angry man and I would either be leaving with my money or in cuffs.....period....end of story.
     
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  10. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

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    Now I am hearing from a good knowledgeable broker friend of mine that Echo is having financial issues and will probably get purchased by another brokerage.

    So be aware of that if they call you for a load.
     
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  11. 77fib77

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    I did tanker for a couple of years. They always ask for bols, in the scale houses.
     
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